DJ, Have I told you lately that I love you? There's nothing that makes this job easier than to have visuals I can reference so that I KNOW I'm on the same page as you. Nice looking case, by the way. :O) The description says that it'll support 2 80mm fans in both front and rear. It's easy to see where in the image they show of the back. I can only guess that the front also has the spots for them stacked one on top of the other. Since the side fan you removed is also an 80mm, you're half way there to filling up both of the extra spots. If you can, get yourself another 80mm so you have 2 running in both the front and back of the case (if you can manage it, you might want to replace all of them with good bearingless fans designed for quiet operation). Once they're all in place, test the temps with the side vents as is and then with them covered. I see that there's more than just the area where the side fan used to be, so I'm suggesting covering up ALL of the ones on this side of the case when you conduct the test (leave the back side alone since those holes will help keep the back of the mainboard cooler). My hunch is that you'll get better results without the holes messing up the air tunnel effect. Other than that, you could always pull the CPU, clean off both the top of the CPU and the bottom of the heatsink and apply just the right amount of Arctic Silver thermal paste to make sure all of the excess heat is transferring properly to the heatsink. It'snot a difficult procedure and it should lower temps a lot better than the thermal pads normally used by the CPU makers (which are simply too thick to be effective enough for my tastes). Also, take some dry q-tips and clean out the area between the fins of all of your heatsinks. You may have to remove a fan or two to get to them properly, but it's worth it to be able to clean deep into these grooves. If you've never done this before, you might be surprised at how much gunk builds up in there. Of course, anything in there will dramatically decrease their ability to get the job done. Have fun. :O) Peace, GMan "The only dumb questions are the ones that are never asked!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "cajun12" <cajun12@xxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 12:46 AM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Fan Placement > G-Man, > > I believe I DO have another place in the front of my case for a fan. I = > haven't pulled the front off since I built this thing two years ago, but = > I believe I do have a place for another fan. I'm going to check soon. = > It sounds like you think this would definitely be the place to move the = > side fan if I do have a place in front. I have my two hard drives = > mounted with one empty slot between them. They are in the front near = > the bottom, and they mount horizontally in the case. My case is a = > DynaPower. You can see a picture of it here showing the left side with = > the most vent holes. Scroll down to see the inside and back: > > http://www.directron.com/bienblack.html > > I have an Albatron PCI Express graphics card - 1 slot. It's not a = > monster. Directly below that is the extra USB hub that plugs into the = > motherboard. Two slots below that is the sound card. My case has some = > vent slits on both sides of the case on the bottom in the middle of the = > panel front to back that measures about 4"w x 2"h. About 2" behind = > those slots on the left side of the case is a rectangle of holes that = > measure about 2-1/4"w x 4-3/4"h. Near the top of the left side, between = > the two bottom sets of ventilation is where the round set of holes is = > that the side fan is mounted against. I had two fan mount spots on the = > back of the case and I mounted the fan in the bottom one, which is about = > the middle of the case. The top fan spot is right under the power = > supply, so the CPU is kind of between the power supply and the exhaust = > fan. Someone who builds computers advised me to put the fans in these = > spots, but my CPU temps have always bothered me and I welcome any = > suggestions that might improve it. > > Thanks. > > dj -- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. To unsubscribe or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/