A friend emailed me this and I'm in the middle of a big project outside and don't have time to research what to remove what or what the other one is so I'm asking the list if they can reply and I'll let her know. If she needs to download a program, let me know which one and I'll pass on the info. Make the program be the easiest that you can suggest as this is her very first computer and she has not had it that long. She is using windows xp. Here is what she wrote: I ran virus scan. Showed 4 unwanted files. I was able to delete 3. Could not clean or delete 1. I quarantined it. Do you know how I can remove it. I could not find it in my remove programs. It is called Hotbar. I have one called windows media hot fix & it say's see 828026. I would appreciate any help. Thanks. Re-Na Hanson / Arkansas USA -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.