Hi lester and All, I agree we need to put more pressure on them and letters and I would suggest calls to the council as well to let them know we need APS placed in the other boroughs. Because they didn't perhaps know about, and certainly didn't consider the needs of the blind community, they probably will be forced into having to retrofit intersections which will be more costly than had they sought input from us from the beginning. We need to try to get DOT to dialog with us so we know where they are in the process and that they indeed are using the guidelines we have given them thusfar. Mike are the intersections you mention currenly being worked on? Or have they already been changed? Joyce Carrico, jcarrico@xxxxxxxxxx