I would think that MOM would always be just PAS members, not the general public, since it is a business meeting. The Star Tours portion of the MOM should just be Star Tour members, as far as I can see. Take care, Sam -----Original Message----- From: Eric Steinberg <eric@xxxxxxxxxx> To: pasmembers <pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wed, Feb 11, 2015 2:08 pm Subject: [pasmembers] Re: MoM Attendance So let’s make the other business portion as short as possible to accommodate the (larger than I had realized) list of topics for the StarTours part. Also, business meeting? I would think that would definitely be private. Especially where there are some difficult topics. There could even be potential for damage to the organization. Anyone agree? Disagree? From: pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terri Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 1:51 PM To: PAS Members ListServ Subject: [pasmembers] Re: MoM Attendance Ok, so I am seeing that we want to hold this as a MOM open to anyone, including non PAS Members, as i haven't made it a private event. The agenda will then be the topics i sent out for the general members of: (we can use a few more topics in this area) 1) Howard: Status of Meet up 2) Mike: Treasurer's report Let's skip the videos And Kevin isn't ready. So, we need a few more details for this portion of the event. More topics. If we were just doing these topics, this meeting would be canceled as it isn't an hour's worth of discussion. Then we can filter into the ST topics. And those I am still comprising and revising the list. But i will have that out to you no later than tomorrow about noon, assuming nothing weird happens that i don't have time to do it. We can include in the General Members discussion 3) Eric: Stipend for Event Coordinator And Alex's input on the same topic. 4) And Kevin's topic of Volunteers at star parties and what is expected of them, etc... this pertains to non Star Tours members as well, since any PAS member can volunteer where needed. Oh, and add my input on this subject as well. I will put those items at the top of the list. If you have anything else we should discuss, send it over. Many thanks for helping to figure out what we are doing tomorrow. Let's make it a party, let's have some fun, and those attending who are not Star Tours members, can choose to leave after the initial General Members topics are concluded, or stay, but don't vote if you aren't a star tours member. Although, input is welcome. Terri On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Redacted sender insanas@xxxxxxx for DMARC <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I vote to do both the general topics for the first hour and then star tours for the second hour. Take care, Sam -----Original Message----- From: Don Boyd <azphotog@xxxxxxxxx> To: pasmembers <pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 3:51 pm Subject: [pasmembers] Re: MoM Attendance It looks like we have at least an hours worth of general topics so I also vote to do both On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:11 PM, <kjwitts@xxxxxxx> wrote: I certainly don't think we should put off the star tours discussion any further. ST members have strong feelings about it and it needs to be addressed. If anything, I would postpone the MOM topics for this Thursday, or do both. I wouldn't postpone ST discussion any further. My 2 cents ---- Terri < starstuff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Alex and Eric, > > Are we saying that we want to make this Thursday just a MOM"s for all PAS > Members, and take our discussion of ST to another date/time? I can do that. > We have enough other things to do at the MOM's this Thursday, i can make it > just Members MOM"s, and then ask Jenny for a different date and time to do > the MOM"s that have to do with the Star Tour members, and this way, we can > keep the discussion to just ST members (as Alex suggested). > > If anyone else wants to add to this, and i get 3 votes to change the format > of this Thursday's meeting (which i will be working on tomorrow, Wednesday > to get it all set up and organized), then I will do that. > > 3 votes. Reply with "Have separate ST meeting," and it will be done. > > Have a super day! > I"m open for suggestions, always. > Terri > > Another idea, is to start the discussion at this meeting, and then branch > off for separate meetings after this one, where by only the ST members are > invited to the meeting and should attend. And they don't have to be on > Thursday at PVCC. We can do a weekend at a Village Inn in a back room if > needed, or someplace else, that was just a suggestion. > > Ideas? > > > On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Alex Vrenios < axv@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Eric is right to say the Star Tours issues should be discussed separately, > > by ST members only. I am no longer a ST member so I will bow out of that > > discussion on Thursday. > > > > Let me mention that my MoM proposal to create an internally funded SIG to > > control the ST activities tracks well with the proposal to offer the ST > > coordinator a stipend. It also solves the ST “members only” discussion > > issue: If the ST becomes a SIG, separate money management can offer the > > coordinator compensation for managing the effort. And as a SIG, the ST > > group can meet independently from the MoM, eliminating the need to dismiss > > non-ST members. > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Good friends are like stars. You don't always > see them, but you always know they are there. > Terri Phoenix Astronomical Society <http://www.pasaz.org/> Event Coordinator > Visit the P.A.S. Facebook > <https://www.facebook.com/PhoenixAstronomicalSociety> Page & My Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/people/Terri-Finch/1021922600> Page > Visit my Music Page: Private Music Instructor > <http://www.MusicLessonsbyTerri.com> & Music Facebook > <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Music-Lessons-by-Terri/170920862925772> Page -- Good friends are like stars. You don't always see them, but you always know they are there. 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