Again, to set that for this individual SQL statement I would need to find some crafty place to put a trigger, doing it at the DB level risks plan changes for 1000's of other statements. -----Original Message----- From: z b [mailto:zimsbait@xxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 10:48 AM To: Post, Ethan Cc: CMarquez@xxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: rm RULE based optimizer !=3D GOOD IDEA Of course, they're getting rid of LONG's also. ;-) Someone else mentioned the i_o_c_a as a potential plan changer. Try to alter=20 a session with a lower value for i_o_c_a and explain/autotrace the query again. I have seen some of our queries "magically" change from fts to irs. -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l