Hi I think is best to use Vmware Workstation (or something like). This way you can start any OS immediately and don´t need to restart. When I finish an installation I always do an Acronis OS image, convert it into a virtual disk and open it with VM Wokstation. This way I have lot´s of OSs and diferent installations on my laptop. I have these virtual machines suspendend so it took seconds to bring it up. There are several other benefits: Easy copy and backup, appliances: http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/, snapshots, etc.etc. I think it´s a MUST HAVE. (I don´t work for Vmware) Juan. -----Mensaje original----- De: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Bobak, Mark Enviado el: lunes, 31 de mayo de 2010 21:39 Para: girlgeek@xxxxxxxx; william.muriithi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; jpiwowar@xxxxxxxxx CC: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: RE: ot - laptop for dba Claudia, I'm not currently in the market, but, another mailing list I'm on, there was just a big long discussion about this. The consensus seemed to be, if you want a very nice, high end laptop, check out the Dell E6510. Nice size display, 8GB RAM, optional SSD, all the bells and whistles, and will run Windows or Linux. If you're considering Linux, but not sure, I'd recommend buying a Windows laptop, then do a Linux install and turn it into a dual-boot box. That way, you can check out Linux, without gicing up the relative comfort and safety of Windows. Hope that helps, -Mark PS Most major Linux distributions should have no problem detecting an existing Windows partition, re-partitioning the drive, and configuring a dual boot setup. ________________________________________ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Claudia Zeiler [girlgeek@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 15:23 To: william.muriithi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; jpiwowar@xxxxxxxxx Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: ot - laptop for dba Guys, Thank you all for the input. My use of this laptop is mainly to play with the new features of 11g. I gather that that is a definitive "You will have to install a VM to run 11g on Mac." I know that the install SHOULD go smoothly. Sometimes they do, and sometimes they don't. I think that I'll stick to a windows machine or maybe finally get a Linux one as I have been threatening ever since I got my Vista machine. Thank you all for the informed input. -Claudia > From: william.muriithi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: jpiwowar@xxxxxxxxx > CC: girlgeek@xxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 12:51:06 -0500 > Subject: Re: ot - laptop for dba > > Claudia, > > Yeap, as John said, oracle 10 run on Mac natively without any problem. Have yet to try oracle 11 though. > > In short, as long as its not a serious database that require support, that would not be a good reason to avoid Mac. > > On 2010-05-31, at 1:36 PM, John Piwowar wrote: > > > Hi Claudia, > > > > It *is* possible to have a toy database running natively on a Mac, with the caveat that it's 10.2.0.4 only. You also have the option of running other versions in a virtualized environment, which is mostly pain-free. :-) It can also be cost-free, since Oracle's Virtualbox product is a free download. > > > > FWIW, I've been a Mac-using DBA for 5 years, and I'm very happy with the platform. I'm sure that the last thing the list needs/wants is a Mac/Windows/Linux religious discussion, though, so no prosyletizing from me! ;-) > > > > Regards, > > > > John P. > > > > (Strange spelling? iPhone's fault. Strange content? Alas, that's all me) > > > > > > On May 31, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Claudia Zeiler <girlgeek@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> > >> Time for a new laptop. Shall I switch to a Mac? I have seen DBA's using Macs, but I wonder, do any have a toy database on the Mac? How? There is no Oracle certified for Mac that I know of. > >> > >> Thanks for any tips. > >> > >> -Claudia > >> > >> Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. See how. > > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > ________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. Get busy.<http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid= PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4> -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l