Well, that's a good point. I don't think it's anything to do with RMAN - he doesn't even know what RMAN is. It's more "this costs extra money so it must be better that what you get bundled with the database". Rather than just saying "no it isn't" I wanted to respond with "no it isn't because....[insert some knowledge of product]" (or even agree "yes it is" if I could be persuaded, I'm not averse to tools that make my life easier, but that isn't happening at the moment!) Charlotte -------------------------------------------------- > Hello, > What is your boss problem with Rman ? > B. Polarski > The world of smenu is at http:// www.smenu.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l