The licensing question for Dataguard vs. standby data was always “is PMON
running?” If you are replicating Power binaries to x86, the software is not
running (nor is it installed). I don’t see how you can be viewed as anything
except having backups of both binaries and data until you hook the disk up to
the correct machine architecture (and In my opinion, launch the binaries as
well).
It could be terminology, Oracle hears standby as Dataguard which means pmon is
running and must be licensed. If that does not describe environment, call it a
live backup when talking to Oracle..
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Michael Brown
On Nov 14, 2018, at 11:07 AM, niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
I was following up on Dave's
Even though, as long as it wasn't open, a standby never had to be licensed
before 2014?
I hadn't realized it was a thread on storage replication to be honest because
of the subject line change. In any case, unless hot standby means replicated
data and not a second set of database processes I don't see how the installed
and running clause won't get you.
On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:34 AM l.flatz@xxxxxxxxxx <l.flatz@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
In this case the replication is on the storage tier. That is a lot different
from Data Guard. Data Guard requires an instance running on the disaster
site.
Storage replacation does not require that. It is not even necessary that
Oracle Software is installed on the disaster site at all.
If it is installed, it might no be running. All of that can make a
difference.
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Betreff : Re: Re Oracle Licensing
A standby database ( and dev databases) has always* been licensable, and in
the same way as the primary. The only exceptions will be if you specifically
inserted a clause otherwise in your contract with Oracle, or if you are
using named user licensing. That is unlikely to say the least. As an
example, I offer the EMEA OLSA from June 2000
http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/olsa-ire-v122304-070683.pdf note ;
the definition of processor.
I suspect this comes from the wording of the docs when Active Data Guard
arrived
"*Oracle Data Guard 11g*
. Is included with Oracle Database Enterprise Edition - it does not require
a separate license . It Includes all Data Guard capabilities from previous
releases and many
other new features that enhance data protection, high availability, disaster
recovery, and utilization of standby databases and systems"
The point of which was to distinguish between DataGuard being an EE feature
and Active Data Guard being chargeable and not to indicate that DR was free.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 8:31 PM Iggy Fernandez <iggy_fernandez@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
The "policies" are explicitly non-contractual and may be revoked or changed
by Oracle at any time. However, there is probably a good legal argument
that you relied on them for guidance.
The Northern California Oracle Users Group is a volunteer-run 501(c)(3)
organization that has been serving the Oracle Database community of
Northern California for more than thirty years by organizing four
conferences a year and publishing a quarterly journal. Download the
complete digital archive of the NoCOUG Journal using: “wget
www.nocoug.org/Journal/NoCOUG_Journal_{2001..2018}{02..12..3}.pdf”.
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Subject: Re Oracle Licensing
This has the relevant answers you're looking for:
https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.oracle.com%2Fassets%2Fdata-recovery-licensing-070587.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbb144e6908e54b3be89608d649a3c0eb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636777364993336976&sdata=DAXUy4xmkTLIBWamQpQ%2F%2FkgcAV4XGnPQN%2FfvlhZtraE%3D&reserved=0
So, forgive me, but am I correct in thinking that my hot standby server
now has to be licensed? And is supposed to have been since 2014?
Even though, as long as it wasn't open, a standby never had to be licensed
before 2014?
Dave
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