Of course they do. They refer you to OTN and doc as stuff YOU can see, not = necessarily as stuff they use to resolve your issue. There are a lot of oc= casions when the material they use to resolve your problems simply can't be= shared, because the material covers internals that is either: 1. Dangerous to know - incorrect usage may cause even further problems 2. Not necessary for you to know - see 1, or 3. Provides information that competitors would LOVE to know The very reason that material is in the doc or on OTN is to obviate you nee= ding the detailed internal material. They also have access to the developers themselves, and in some cases (depe= nding on where in Support they're from) they also have access to the source= code. That's more than I'll ever have. :( = Pete = "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook = "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] = On Behalf Of ryan.gaffuri@xxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, 7 April 2004 12:23 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: RE: how good is oracle tech support? also, what does oracle support have to work with? Most of the time they see= m to use the OTN docs and metalink. do they have any internal docs? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------