Some of the pain with the startup/shutdown could be alleviated with SSD drive, though the prices are coming down, they could still put a nice dent on your wallet. A decent 500G SSD could be about $300 or a 1 TB SSD about $550. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=samsung%20ssd%20evo&sprefix=samsung+ssd+e%2Caps&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Asamsung%20ssd%20evo -Upendra > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 05:45:34 -0800 > From: jeff.d.smith@xxxxxxxxxx > To: jonathan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: OT: Laptop Memory of "Oracle Lab" -- 16gb support "good enough"? > > Isn't more always better? > > Unless you have to travel frequently, then I'd go with the slimmer option. > I'm still waiting for Apple to make a Mac Book Air avail with 16GB of the > good stuff. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Lewis [mailto:jonathan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 4:49 AM > To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: OT: Laptop Memory of "Oracle Lab" -- 16gb support "good enough"? > > > I'll see your three nodes and raise you one (yes, I have no idea about poker > terminology). > > I can run a 4-node RAC (because three node is stll a special case when you're > examining instance failure) on 16GB. I've also run up a 5th VM at the same > time to run OEM under Firefox, but I don't use the full setup often and > starting it all up is slow. > > > http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/personal-rac/ > > > My next machine will be a 32GB machine - mainly because Cloud Control seems > to want a lot of memory. > Troubles with "large" memories - how much time does it take to > hibernate/shutdown etc. > > > > Regards > Jonathan Lewis > http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com > @jloracle > > ________________________________________ > From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf > of Niall Litchfield [niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: 21 December 2013 09:21 > To: Justin Mungal > Cc: elkinsl@xxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l-freelists > Subject: Re: OT: Laptop Memory of "Oracle Lab" -- 16gb support "good enough"? > > I have a machine with 16gb ram, My RAC vms use 2g ram (but I have 3 of them > since 2 node is a special case :) ) As Justin points out EM12c really wants a > significant chunk of memory so I rarely run all 4 vms at the same time. If I > had a 32gb machine I probably would. > > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Justin Mungal > <justin@xxxxxxx<mailto:justin@xxxxxxx>> wrote: > I opted for an m6700 with 32GB of memory. That way I could run 12c RAC, 12c > Cloud Control, a few stand-alone instances, and all my standard apps at the > same time. The virtualized 2-node RAC and the Cloud Control VM use 14GB just > on their own (4GB per node, 6GB for Cloud Control). > > The laptop itself is bigger and more expensive, but that doesn't bother me > much as I don't move it around very much. I just checked the Dell website and > the m4800, which has a smaller form factor, supports up to 32GB of RAM. > > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Larry Elkins > <elkinsl@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:elkinsl@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > Listers, > > Looking at buying a new laptop, and intend to use Oracle's VM and Linux to > mimic various production scenarios, playing with things like RAC, Data Guard, > Golden Gate, OEM 12c, etc. There was a discussion last January where some > wished felt fine with 16gb memory, though some wondered if that would be > enough. So, I want to revisit and see if those limited to 16gb found they > could meet their needs? > > I know a lot depends on exactly what I intend to do, and what all is running > at the same time. So just more a generic question if those limited to 16gb > found they could do all they needed to do. There are many more options for > laptops supporting up to 16gb versus those that will support up to 32gb > (which also tend to be bigger, heavier, and more expensive). > > Regards, > > Larry G. Elkins > elkinsl@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:elkinsl@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Cell: 214.695.8605<tel:214.695.8605> > > > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > > > > > > -- > Niall Litchfield > Oracle DBA > http://www.orawin.info > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > >