Re: OMF or not OMF? DBCA or Manual scripts

  • From: Frits Hoogland <frits.hoogland@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "backseatdba@xxxxxxxxx" <backseatdba@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:52:03 +0100

I use dbca -silent with templates. 

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> Op 24 mrt. 2014 om 17:44 heeft Jeff C <backseatdba@xxxxxxxxx> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Ok I think you guys have convinced me to use OMF.  Now my next question is do 
> you create your database manually using scripts or use DBCA.  I have alway 
> used DBCA, not really a big shop here.  I like the idea of creating the 
> database manually using scripts but you have to manually install components 
> and features and I afraid I might something that was needed.
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Tim Gorman <tim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> "What's in a name?  That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell 
>> as sweet." -W. Shakespeare, "Romeo & Juliet", Act 2, scene 2
>> 
>> Why do you prefer manual control of file naming?  I recall scripting space 
>> management and how much needless hassle was involved in file naming and the 
>> irritation when someone on the team deviated from the preferred convention.  
>> OMF has made all of that moot, with zero downside.
>> 
>> One thing I recall from bucking OMF, at least from the 10g timeframe;  if 
>> you created a non-OMF file and then later drop the tablespace without the 
>> clause "INCLUDING CONTENTS AND DATAFILES", ASM would drop the alias but not 
>> the file itself.  So, I periodically had to go into ASMCMD and look for 
>> "orphaned" files from tablespaces that had been dropped without the 
>> "INCLUDING" clause;   not sure if that is still an issue?
>> 
>> Regardless, it's useful to stop and think about why certain preferences 
>> exist;  sometimes they go obsolete behind your back...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/21/2014 6:34 AM, Jeff C wrote:
>>> I  have never used OMF for my database file structure and I was wondering 
>>> is this what everybody is doing now?  I realize that if you are using ASM 
>>> you have to go with OMF so I am really only talking no ASM users.  I guess 
>>> I have always like control my file names and locations. But my next 
>>> database I am about to create I was thinking of trying OMF.
>>> If I do go with it I will probably still manually control the location of 
>>> the control files and archive files. Can you also create a non OMF temp 
>>> tablespace?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any input
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