I don't think you'll have to wait too much longer--probably in the next few weeks I'd expect. The latest beta is very good IMHO. The only thing you can count on is that anyone saying a specific date will probably be wrong. There's a big party on Wednesday (the 11th :) to do the launch, but I'm not sure that the bits will be available at that time. Dan ----- Original Message ---- From: Arif Gulzar <gulzar.arif@xxxxxxxxx> To: chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: robertgfreeman@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 9, 2007 3:42:08 PM Subject: Re: OEM or lots of code? Any idea when we could have 11g RDBMS install binaries available ? i am waiting to install and explore it at my test/development environment. Arif On 7/9/07, Chris Dunscombe <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Robert, My only comment is that AFAIK most of the OEM Advisories require one of the chargeable packs e.g. Tuning, Diagnostics etc. How many sites are actually licensed to use these packs and hence the OEM Advisories? Hence how much page coverage, in relation to other features, is appropriate for features that most people SHOULDN'T be using due to licensing. Just a point for you to consider. Cheers, Chris Quoting Robert Freeman <robertgfreeman@xxxxxxxxx >: >> > In this new book, I'm considering biasing my coverage to OEM for a few > reasons: > > 1. OEM is less complex to use. > 2. Adding coverage for both will take up many more pages. When you are > writing a book you are limited to a page count range, so depth is limited > based on this too. > 3. The Code route, in and of itself, can be complex. I'm not sure if it's > worth the extra time to add the code in some cases just because of this > complexity. > > I'm wondering if anyone who has used these features or suspect they will use > them in the future has a preference. In some cases, if page count allows, > I'll do both. In some cases I need to select either/or due to page count > considerations. In the past, I've been very heavily code oriented and really > relegated OEM to the background, but now I'm thinking of moving in the other > direction. > > Thoughts?? > > RF > > > Robert G. Freeman > Oracle Consultant/DBA/Author > > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > > > Chris Dunscombe www.christallize.com -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l