Yep - I realize I didn't make that clear. For each test, I run dbms_pool.purge with the address/hash values of the previous queries. Chris -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rich Jesse Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 10:52 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Need some 10053 Guidance to help me solve a puzzler (*IGNORE* adjusted _optimizer_max_permutations, cost_based_transformation) Hey Chris, > IGNORE that information as something else appears to be going on. > > When unsetting optmaxperm and optcbtransform I'm getting the better plan now > by default. I would hope that you would see the same as the cursor should not have been invalidated. You'd need to go to your pool flushing thread to make 'er go bye-bye first, or was that implied? In either case, you're earning your beer this weekend... :9 Rich -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l