Hey Chris, > IGNORE that information as something else appears to be going on. > > When unsetting optmaxperm and optcbtransform I'm getting the better plan now > by default. I would hope that you would see the same as the cursor should not have been invalidated. You'd need to go to your pool flushing thread to make 'er go bye-bye first, or was that implied? In either case, you're earning your beer this weekend... :9 Rich -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l