Jared writes DBA scripts in Java... see his excellent article at http://www.dbazine.com/still1.shtml I don't enough to say but could the java piece in this article have been = written in Perl?=20 -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Cary Millsap Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:51 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Java vs. Perl The only reason I would recommend for a DBA to learn Java is if that's what your applications are written in. If you have any performance responsibilities, you MUST know something about the language your apps are written in. Substitute whatever your app is written in for "Java" in this paragraph (PHP, COBOL, C++, C#, Visual Basic, ...it doesn't matter; whatever your app is written in). This, by the way, is why you MUST understand SQL and probably also PL/SQL (if you're lucky); it's part of what your apps are written in. Perl is another story. Maybe your app is written in Perl, but probably not. Even so, Perl, Python, ksh, SQL, PL/SQL, and others are tools that a DBA might use to create new tools that help you do your job more effectively. There's probably someone out there who writes DBA scripts in Java, but whoever you are, I don't envy you. :) Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com * Nullius in verba * Upcoming events: - Performance Diagnosis 101: 4/6 Seattle, 5/7 Dallas, 5/18 New Jersey - SQL Optimization 101: 4/19 Denver, 5/3 Boston, 5/24 San Diego - Hotsos Symposium 2005: March 6-10 Dallas - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Lee Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:37 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Java vs. Perl There are many reasons to use one tool over another. For me and my company, perl offers faster development time. What it boils down to, both tools allow you to connect to the Database so anything that can execute SQL or pl/sql is fine. In the past, executing the same business logic with medium to big amount of data (100k+ records) is faster in perl than java. Unfortunately = I=3D20 don't have any statistics to back to support this. Anyone? The java developers that I know of, uses ODBC or OCI, to communicate =3D from the java application server (ATG) to 8i. I don't know of anyone using=3D20 java and communicating to Oracle's API. =3D20 - David Lee -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Juan Cachito Reyes Pacheco Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:04 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Java vs. Perl Hi, please there is another reason than simple know perl, to use perl instead of Java. I always heard Java had more advantages than perl, including the fact = =3D that Oracle include it in the database. Now you are talking as much about perl, and I am thinking to study java, =3D I am asking which is best. for most purpouses. Thanks :) Juan Carlos Reyes Pacheco OCP Database 9.2 Standard Edition ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------