RE: How can I get the BBED password?
- From: "Parker, Matthew" <matthewp@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Guerra, Abraham J" <AGUERRA@xxxxxxxxx>, <tanel.poder.003@xxxxxxx>, <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:41:58 -0700
If you believe that to be the case then perform the operation and dump =
the redolog. If it is happening you will see the row migration in the =
redo stream.=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Guerra, Abraham J [mailto:AGUERRA@xxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:23 AM
To: Parker, Matthew; tanel.poder.003@xxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: How can I get the BBED password?
Thanks to all that have responded...
Well, something that I've noticed with regular dumps is that when you
update a null column in a record, the whole row is migrated within the
block to a new location and the space in never reused... I want to use
bbed to see if that is true...
Thanks again to all,
Abraham
-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Parker, Matthew
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:22 AM
To: tanel.poder.003@xxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: How can I get the BBED password?
An excellent observation Tanel.
Abraham, what exactly are you looking to accomplish? The standard dump =
=3D
utilities of Oracle provide most of what you may be looking for. Out of
=3D
all the block repairs I have had to do over the years, the only thing =
=3D
bbed has provided me is the ability to run a verify on the block I have
=3D
repaired before I replace the block in the file, since dbv requires the
=3D
block to be a part of the file, otherwise I find the tool to be less =3D
than useful.=3D20
In the world there are about 7 Oracle BDE/RDBMS development people who =
=3D
can edit blocks well and only 1 or 2 others who understand and try to =
=3D
edit the redo stream, and in my dealings with most of them they have =3D
their own tools because bbed is archaic. The lower end Support personnel
=3D
who do use bbed, normally do not have the skills or knowledge to edit =
=3D
the blocks in the first place.
If you are trying to understand block structures, then you should read =
=3D
the documentation and the many papers that are available. There is no =
=3D
single source of information that will tell you everything and there are
=3D
a lot of flags and pointer values that are not documented anywhere but =
=3D
in the code itself. In the last year working on lots of block =3D
corruptions from Linux induced problems, almost every time, the actual =
=3D
people who can edit blocks well, had to reference the code for =3D
determination of some of the flags. It is just the reality that =3D
everyone, can't know everything.
So back to the question, what are you truly trying to find out? The tool
=3D
has no training mode and it does not document the oracle block structure
=3D
for you.=3D20
-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tanel P=3DF5der
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:24 PM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: How can I get the BBED password?
Hi,
It's a really trivial task to find the password if you think about it a
=3D
bit,=3D20
that's why I think it's everyone's own responsibility to find it out if
=3D
you=3D20
actually need the utility. Also, the more people start messing up
their=3D20
databases with bbed, the more likely will Oracle remove it from =
next=3D20
distribution at all or encrypt the password or similar...
Tanel.
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From: "Guerra, Abraham J" <AGUERRA@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:39 PM
Subject: How can I get the BBED password?
> Hello all,
>
> I'm trying to dump some blocks with bbed. It asks for a password.
> According to Steve Adams, if I used strings on bbed I should find the
> password in 30 seconds... It's been 3 days... anybody know how to find
> it?
>
> TIA.
>
> Abraham Guerra
> American Family Insurance
> Oracle DBA
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