An excellent observation Tanel. Abraham, what exactly are you looking to accomplish? The standard dump = utilities of Oracle provide most of what you may be looking for. Out of = all the block repairs I have had to do over the years, the only thing = bbed has provided me is the ability to run a verify on the block I have = repaired before I replace the block in the file, since dbv requires the = block to be a part of the file, otherwise I find the tool to be less = than useful.=20 In the world there are about 7 Oracle BDE/RDBMS development people who = can edit blocks well and only 1 or 2 others who understand and try to = edit the redo stream, and in my dealings with most of them they have = their own tools because bbed is archaic. The lower end Support personnel = who do use bbed, normally do not have the skills or knowledge to edit = the blocks in the first place. If you are trying to understand block structures, then you should read = the documentation and the many papers that are available. There is no = single source of information that will tell you everything and there are = a lot of flags and pointer values that are not documented anywhere but = in the code itself. In the last year working on lots of block = corruptions from Linux induced problems, almost every time, the actual = people who can edit blocks well, had to reference the code for = determination of some of the flags. It is just the reality that = everyone, can't know everything. So back to the question, what are you truly trying to find out? The tool = has no training mode and it does not document the oracle block structure = for you.=20 -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tanel P=F5der Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:24 PM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: How can I get the BBED password? Hi, It's a really trivial task to find the password if you think about it a = bit,=20 that's why I think it's everyone's own responsibility to find it out if = you=20 actually need the utility. Also, the more people start messing up their=20 databases with bbed, the more likely will Oracle remove it from next=20 distribution at all or encrypt the password or similar... Tanel. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Guerra, Abraham J" <AGUERRA@xxxxxxxxx> To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:39 PM Subject: How can I get the BBED password? > Hello all, > > I'm trying to dump some blocks with bbed. It asks for a password. > According to Steve Adams, if I used strings on bbed I should find the > password in 30 seconds... It's been 3 days... anybody know how to find > it? > > TIA. > > Abraham Guerra > American Family Insurance > Oracle DBA > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l=20 -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l