Re: Data Guard and E-Business Suite

  • From: Martin Berger <martin.a.berger@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ric.van.dyke@xxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 20:49:23 +0200

Even without DataGuard, what's about a simple (rman) restore?
If you want to restore the EBS DB, you have to set FORCE LOGGING first?

really strange ... or funny - depends how you see it.

Martin

Am 13.05.2010 um 20:26 schrieb Ric Van Dyke:

This has been around “forever”. EBS has lots of stuff with NOLOGGIN and really was one of the reasons that the FORCE LOGGING option was developed.

Yea we can banter all day about the good the bad and the ugly of this, but the reality is that it’s there.

I’ve been on EBS sites that have used a standby with forced logging. I don’t know if I’ve ever had a very comprehensive view of the impact of it (I would only be there for a few days/weeks in a consulting role). I did some investigation into it at one site in particular and honestly I couldn’t tell the difference. But it was not an exhaustive test of the entire suite.

The bottom line is YOU MUST USE FORCE LOGGING if you are serious about DR. If you just want to pretend like you have a DR site then sure don’t use FORCE LOGGING. Of course if you ever have to really use it, I hope your resume is up to date to the point just before the failure happens…

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Ric Van Dyke
Hotsos Enterprises
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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ] On Behalf Of Goulet, Richard
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:54 PM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Data Guard and E-Business Suite

Have a question from one of the other folks here who is dealing solely with EBS. They recently created a data guard standby database (play type) and went to try a failover to see how the app server would behave. Again this is a play environment so errors are expected. What she did not expect is that when failing over the database the system complained about block corruption. We consequently figured out the it was due to the master db not having forced logging enabled so we know the master cause. But we did check around the db and found a very large number of application tables that had nologging set. This e think is rather odd and is either a foul-up on the development side at Oracle or something they did deliberately for one reason or the other. We're now wondering if setting forded logging on at the database level is going to cause us performance or other problems. So, is anyone out there running EBS with a DG standby and forced logging on the master??? What effects are you seeing???

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA/NA Team Lead
PAREXEL International

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