Yes, that's true. One thing to remember when talking about developers is that work liberates, or in German: "Arbeit Macht Frei". Good organization is the final solution of the developer problem. Of course, I'm a DBA, in case anyone had any doubts. On 03/22/2004 12:15:33 PM, Juan Cachito Reyes Pacheco wrote: > This is true ryan, > But comments like "Controlling developers is like herding cats" > Seems that someone have problems organizing the work, > Independently of who is responsible of that, they must be solved. > > The point is if some one wants to talk about their problems as dba, > working with other people and how to solve them. > I have some experience and this could be interesting, sahre ideas found to > solve them. > Now if no body have problems with that then there is no reason for this > post. > :) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ryan.gaffuri@xxxxxxx> > To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 1:11 PM > Subject: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats > > > > your question is vague. what do you mean by organizing developers. its not > the DBAs responsibility to do that. It's their management's responsibility. > > > > what do you mean? > > > > > > From: "Juan Cachito Reyes Pacheco" <jreyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Date: 2004/03/22 Mon AM 10:32:06 EST > > > To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Subject: Controlling developers is like herding cats > > > > > > I don't know if some dba, want to talk about the way to solve > > > organizing a group of developer (including times, work to be done, > > > quality control, etc.) > > > We have some experience, and had developed a software for internal use, > > > > > > Maybe someone want to talk about this, I think this is a critical work > > > for the dba. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. > > > -- > > > Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ > > > FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. > > -- > > Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ > > FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. > -- > Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ > FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------