RE: Controlling developers is like herding cats

  • From: April Wells <AWells@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 06:57:50 -0600

See, I knew I heard it somewhere... 
 
It is also (at least on Windows) a lot like trying to herd jellyfish ...
just as difficult as cats, and every once in a while you get stung a bit.

April Wells 
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA 
Corporate Systems 
Amarillo Texas 
 @>-->-->-- 
"Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite" 
Adam Wells age 11 
"Imagination is the highest kite one can fly." 
Lauren Bacall 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Gorman [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:05 PM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats


Barbara Matthews ( http://www.OnCallDBA.com) <http://www.OnCallDBA.com)>
presented "Managing the Concurrent Manager: Herding Cats" at IOUW 1994, I
think it was.  She has since updated that original paper for R10.7, R11.0.3,
and R11i, in addition to newer papers on month-end weedwhacking in Oracle
Apps...



on 3/22/04 10:33 AM, April Wells at AWells@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:



administering financials (11i e-business suite) has been referred to by the
same euphemism... 

April Wells 
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA 
Corporate Systems 
Amarillo Texas 
 @>-->-->-- 
"Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite" 
Adam Wells age 11 
"Imagination is the highest kite one can fly." 
Lauren Bacall 


-----Original Message----- 
From: jtesta@xxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:jtesta@xxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:jtesta@xxxxxxxxxx]>  
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 11:28 AM 
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats 


Juan, its just Pete's signature line, dont get too worked up about it :) 

joe 


> This is true ryan, 
> But comments like "Controlling developers is like herding cats" 
> Seems that someone have problems organizing the work, 
> Independently of who is responsible of that, they must be solved. 
> 
> The point is if some one wants to talk about their problems as dba, 
> working with other people and how to solve them. 
> I have some experience and this could be interesting, sahre ideas found 
> to solve them. 
> Now if no body have problems with that then there is no reason for this 
> post. 
> :) 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ryan.gaffuri@xxxxxxx> 
> To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 1:11 PM 
> Subject: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats 
> 
> 
>> your question is vague. what do you mean by organizing developers. its 
>> not 
> the DBAs responsibility to do that. It's their management's 
> responsibility. 
>> 
>> what do you mean? 
>> > 
>> > From: "Juan Cachito Reyes Pacheco" <jreyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>> > Date: 2004/03/22 Mon AM 10:32:06 EST 
>> > To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>> > Subject: Controlling developers is like herding cats 
>> > 
>> > I don't know if some dba, want to talk about the way to solve 
>> > organizing a group of developer (including times, work to be done, 
>> quality control, etc.) 
>> > We have some experience, and had developed a software for internal 
>> use, 
>> > 
>> > Maybe someone want to talk about this, I think this is a critical 
>> work for the dba. 
>> > 
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