RE: CEO's head in the Cloud
- From: "Powell, Mark" <mark.powell2@xxxxxx>
- To: oracle-l <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:42:03 +0000
If you have to give up control of what versions of software you run then I do
not see how you could even consider making such a migration. The 'cloud' is
just another IT buzzword for give us your money.
Outsourcing your data center is fine. EDS, now HP Enterprise Services, did a
great job managing user data centers either located in house or in one of EDS's
data centers for people. But the software that was run and the versions of
said software were pretty much under user control.
The data center should be customized to the customer rather than the customer
having to conform to the vendor offering.
Just my opinion.
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From: D'Hooge Freek [mailto:Freek.DHooge@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:14 AM
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Subject: RE: CEO's head in the Cloud
hmmm, don't know what you store in your databases, but one possible remark that
can end your manager dreams is to ask about the possible legislation and
certification (eg sox) issues
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Sent: 02 June 2010 23:12
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Subject: CEO's head in the Cloud
My CEO just came back from a technology conference where his head became filled
with lots of ideas including the idea that we should abandon our hosted
datacenters and push everything into the Cloud, specifically Amazon's. A
cursory review of the offerings for this show that the databases are hosted on
Amazon virtual machines that aren't officially supported by Oracle and thus
require a premium support contract from Amazon.
Aside from my personal feelings on the matter (that I'd much rather have a
tangible set of servers that are under direct control), what are your pros/cons
for pushing or not Production level OLTP databases into the cloud. I notice
right now that they currently only offer 11g1 on 64-bit an not 10g 64-bit or
11g2 64-bit so it would appear they arent covering all of their bases.
Presently we're RAC on 10.2.0.4 64 bit and use dataguard to a different
datacenter for geographic redundancy. I note also that Amazon doesnt support
RAC instances at present.
His driving push is that somehow Amazon's cloud will mean better performance
throughout the world as somehow the network throughput will be magically
enhanced so someone in Iraq will get the same speed hitting the application as
someone in California. I don't agree with that either but I dont have
empirical proof. Our databases presently are highly available, highly
optimized, and highly redundant. But, they aren't buzz word stamped "Cloud."
Sigh.
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