[optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
- From: Angiographics <angiolith@xxxxxxx>
- To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 06:40:27 -0400 (EDT)
Thanks for everyone's input.
However......no one is addressing the relative merits of SLO (Spectralis) vs
regular fundus camera FAF issues. Is that because everyone uses only one
modality? Did Tim's webinar address this? Is it saved on the OPS website?
Marty Rothenberg
Angiographics
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[optimal] FA Dye
[optimal] Re: FA Dye
[optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
[optimal] Re: OIS/Merge and EPIC EMR
[optimal] Re: Need Images
[optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
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[optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
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[optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
[optimal] From Denice re Donation to the OPS Archives
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From: Peterson John C <JPeterson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:31:52 +0000
To the larger question: we do about 100 Spectralis OCTs here for every FAF that
is ordered. This speaks to a. the comfort level our docs have with OCT as a
diagnostic tool, and b. the fact that FAF is underutilized.
********
John C. Peterson, BS, CRA
Senior Ophthalmic Photographer
UW Health Eye Clinic
2880 University Ave., Rm. 246
Madison, WI 53705
(608) 263-7163
From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Angiographics
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:09 PM
To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optimal] FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
The retina doc at a practice I work with just found out that they own a Canon
CR-2 Plus in one of their remote offices. Can anyone comment on the FAF
(autofluorescence) on this camera? I could only find a few images online.
I realize this is designed as a non-myd, but we would probably take the images
dilated.
This opens a slightly larger question: is fundus camera FAF as good a tool as
Spectralis FAF? And please, I am more interested in diagnostic ability than
aesthetics.
Open the flamethrowers!
Marty Rothenberg
Angiographics, Inc
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Subject: [optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
From: Marc Gilels <vasion@xxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 09:57:59 -0400 (EDT)
This is a very conclusive study. I didnt look back to see if anyone else posted
this.
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Subject: [optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
To the larger question: we do about 100 Spectralis OCTs here for every FAF that
is ordered. This speaks to a. the comfort level our docs have with OCT as a
diagnostic tool, and b. the fact that FAF is underutilized.
********
John C. Peterson, BS, CRA
Senior Ophthalmic Photographer
UW Health Eye Clinic
2880 University Ave., Rm. 246
Madison, WI 53705
(608) 263-7163
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Behalf Of Angiographics
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:09 PM
To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optimal] FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
The retina doc at a practice I work with just found out that they own a Canon
CR-2 Plus in one of their remote offices. Can anyone comment on the FAF
(autofluorescence) on this camera? I could only find a few images online.
I realize this is designed as a non-myd, but we would probably take the images
dilated.
This opens a slightly larger question: is fundus camera FAF as good a tool as
Spectralis FAF? And please, I am more interested in diagnostic ability than
aesthetics.
Open the flamethrowers!
Marty Rothenberg
Angiographics, Inc
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Subject: [optimal] FA Dye
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:06:48 -0400
From: "David Cimino" <dcimino@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Where are folks getting the best deals on fluorescein these days?
Thanks,
David
David Cimino, CRA COA
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From: "Tom Steele" <TSteele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [optimal] Re: FA Dye
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:22:03 -0400
David,
http://www.akfluor.com/order.php
Thank You,
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Where are folks getting the best deals on fluorescein these days?
Thanks,
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From: Paula Morris <paula.morris@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 18:10:03 +0000
For one physician, we do a lot of FAF for AMD and dystrophies. The other
retina specialists are doing more as time goes on. Our doctors really thought
the JOP supplement dedicated to FAF was a wonderful resource and tool - we
bought extras to give to residents when it was published
p
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Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 7:58 AM
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Subject: [optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
This is a very conclusive study. I didnt look back to see if anyone else posted
this.
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Sent: Mon, Sep 9, 2013 6:32 am
Subject: [optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
To the larger question: we do about 100 Spectralis OCTs here for every FAF that
is ordered. This speaks to a. the comfort level our docs have with OCT as a
diagnostic tool, and b. the fact that FAF is underutilized.
********
John C. Peterson, BS, CRA
Senior Ophthalmic Photographer
UW Health Eye Clinic
2880 University Ave., Rm. 246
Madison, WI 53705
(608) 263-7163
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Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:09 PM
To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [optimal] FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
The retina doc at a practice I work with just found out that they own a Canon
CR-2 Plus in one of their remote offices. Can anyone comment on the FAF
(autofluorescence) on this camera? I could only find a few images online.
I realize this is designed as a non-myd, but we would probably take the images
dilated.
This opens a slightly larger question: is fundus camera FAF as good a tool as
Spectralis FAF? And please, I am more interested in diagnostic ability than
aesthetics.
Open the flamethrowers!
Marty Rothenberg
Angiographics, Inc
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From: CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center <cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:37:57 -0700
Subject: [optimal] Re: OIS/Merge and EPIC EMR
I've had similar issues with Zeiss. So many encryptions built in on both sides
it's hard to do business sometimes....
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Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center
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Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:39 AM
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Subject: [optimal] Re: OIS/Merge and EPIC EMR
This JUST in: my previous comment about Epic, Merge and IT not talking to each
other was evidently more of an issue with our IT department and how they have
the permissions set for users. Our workstations are locked down in such a way
that it was not letting this connection to happen.
Well, just 5 minutes ago I found out that they have finally cracked the nut and
the link now works!
Richard
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Subject: [optimal] Re: OIS/Merge and EPIC EMR
We're in the planning stages now to integrate EPIC Kaleidoscope with MERGE Eye
Care PACS.
For anyone currently using EPIC/MERGE, are any of you sending orders directly
to
MERGE ECP [full on HL7 implementation, not just demographics or HTML Jump]?
Would love to talk with you if you are!
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Subject: [optimal] Re: OIS/Merge and EPIC EMR
We have EPIC and Merge here. Be prepared to have issues of "epic" proportions
(pun intended). We have an OIS tab in EPIC, but it doesen't do anything? It has
been 2 years and we are still tweaking it.
Randall Verdick, FOPS
Educational Media Coordinator
Department of Ophthalmology
University of Iowa
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Subject: [optimal] Re: OIS/Merge and EPIC EMR
Me also. Our hospital is going EPIC. In 2014 We'll go Merge/Axis/Forum. Jury
is still out
Assuming there will be a tab/button in EPIC as a portal to the other
ophthalmology PACS.
D.
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I am wondering if there are any facilities out there currently using both
OIS/Merge and EPIC together (a tab in Epic that opens OIS/Merge)? I am curious
how it is integrated.
Feel free to contact me off the list.
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From: CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center <cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:41:37 -0700
Subject: [optimal] Re: Need Images
Sorry, none here in my database...
Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS
Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center
CPMC Department of Ophthalmology
2100 Webster Street Suite 212
San Francisco CA 94115
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Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:57 AM
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Subject: [optimal] Need Images
Hello all
I am in need of a few good examples of pre-and post Ocryplasmin treatment of
VMA's for a presentation next Monday. All images will be given the usual credit
recognition.
Hope you can help.
Many thanks
Stephen Travers
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From: CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center <cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:46:34 -0700
Subject: [optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
I can't speak to Fundus FAF, although Tim Bennett gave an outstanding OPS
Webinar last week on just this subject
As for creating FAF on the Spectralis, it couldn't be easier.
I learned a few tips from Tim. I've been OVER sampling on the Spectralis
thinking I was helping, when in fact, hurting...
All told, as an "old dog" I like the less grainy images on the Fundus generated
FAF, but appreciate the work required to retro fit a camera if not a more
modern
instrument.
We've taken amazing images with the Spectralis. As with all things imaging,
if
you want your best photo, pick your best patient.....
MHO ( my humble opinion)
Denice
May I please transfer this conversation to the OPS general membership forum and
continue to encourage everyone to do so as well as we transition over to a one
stop shop for all things OPS.
Denice
Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS
Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center
CPMC Department of Ophthalmology
2100 Webster Street Suite 212
San Francisco CA 94115
(415) 600-3937 FAX (415) 600-6563
From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Angiographics
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:09 AM
To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optimal] FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
The retina doc at a practice I work with just found out that they own a Canon
CR-2 Plus in one of their remote offices. Can anyone comment on the FAF
(autofluorescence) on this camera? I could only find a few images online.
I realize this is designed as a non-myd, but we would probably take the images
dilated.
This opens a slightly larger question: is fundus camera FAF as good a tool as
Spectralis FAF? And please, I am more interested in diagnostic ability than
aesthetics.
Open the flamethrowers!
Marty Rothenberg
Angiographics, Inc
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From: CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center <cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:53:23 -0700
Subject: [optimal] How to improve time and motion efficiency in the photographi
Which speaks to the issue, that TECHNICALLY, LEGALLY, it is the responsibility
of the PHYSICIAN to "obtain consent" thereby verifying that the PHYSICIAN
talked
to the patient about the procedure and the need for it. Our role, TECHNICALLY,
LEGALLY,is to verify that there is one in the record ( only) So, as the
imager, you could easily eliminate that aspect ( which is time consuming) by
either asking the physician to do this, and/or ( a reality check here) someone
on their non imaging staff to have this done BEFORE they enter the photographic
suite....
I find in our center that the most time is spent actually conversing with the
patient, answering their questions ( which SEEM to never be brought up in the
exam room) If I could neutralize this need, we could see double the patients.
However, I appreciate that each patient could well be my mother and I would not
want HER treated as if a sausage patty on an assembly line. I am fortunate
that
CPMC does not ask us to crank up the conveyor belt any faster than is
compassionately possible.
Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS
Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center
CPMC Department of Ophthalmology
2100 Webster Street Suite 212
San Francisco CA 94115
(415) 600-3937 FAX (415) 600-6563
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Subject: Re: [spectralis-user-group] New Spectralis user in a high volume
clinic, need workflow advice
Have your clinic staff, if they are trustworthy and empathetic, consent your
patients for you. Removing that 2 minutes from each patient will save you time.
I still do a cursory explanation so that I have some type of relationship
either
the patient but having consents pre-signed REALLY helps.
Eric Kegley, CRA, COA
Director of Ophthalmic Imaging
6560 Fannin St., Suite 750
Houston, TX 77030
Main 713 524-3434
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On Sep 6, 2013, at 8:10 AM, "stuart.alfred"
<stuart.alfred@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:stuart.alfred@xxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Hi Group,
I've just returned to working in a large volume FA/OCT clinic. Roughly 20
patients per day, each getting Spectralis OCT/FA. I perform my own injections,
we export to an EMR system (also print out), use 25% dye, and conclude lates at
5minutes. Aside from the obvious things of drawing up dye prior to patients
arrival etc. do any of you have thoughts or suggestions on how to improve my
workflow in order to keep pace? Frankly I know I do a great job keeping pace,
but I have to keep charts 'showing' in the rack to two or less - otherwise the
docs sometimes freak out -even though they are the ones actually behind. Oh, I
have no control over the schedule since our Institute is arranged such that
each
retina spcialist is an indepentent practice and I am an admin. employee.
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 14:19:59 -0500
Subject: [optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
From: Dale Brodsky <dale.brodsky@xxxxxxxxx>
This is a sample of an FAF solution we developed for the Topcon 50EX. The
capture camera is a Canon 5D Mark II. We can also do the Zeiss FF4.
Generally, lack of utilization of the technology is commonplace. If there
was a billing code specific to FAF, popularity would dramatically increase,
one would think. I agree with Denise on how easy it is to create FAF's on
the Spectralis. We came out with the fundus camera FAF version for those
that cannot afford higher end imaging solutions. It's straightforward and
simple, too.
Marty, thanks for opening the discussion as FAF is an important diagnostic
tool, by either SLO or fundus camera.
Financial interest.
Dale Brodsky
President - Fundus Photo, LLC - Digital Fundus Cameras and Upgrades
Owner - St. Louis Ophthalmic Equipment Company - in our 22nd year!
3015 Locust Street St. Louis, MO 63103 USA
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On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Angiographics <angiolith@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> The retina doc at a practice I work with just found out that they own a
> Canon CR-2 Plus in one of their remote offices. Can anyone comment on the
> FAF (autofluorescence) on this camera? I could only find a few images
> online.
>
> I realize this is designed as a non-myd, but we would probably take the
> images dilated.
>
> This opens a slightly larger question: is fundus camera FAF as good a tool
> as Spectralis FAF? And please, I am more interested in diagnostic ability
> than aesthetics.
>
> Open the flamethrowers!
>
> Marty Rothenberg
> Angiographics, Inc
>
>
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From: "Lee, Katherine K." <leek@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:35:56 -0400
Subject: [optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
Denice, What do you mean by "over sampling"? Should we not let the ART build
up
while trying to get a FAF with our spectralis?
Katherine K Lee COT
Storm Eye Institute
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Subject: [optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
I can�t speak to Fundus FAF, although Tim Bennett gave an outstanding OPS
Webinar last week on just this subject
As for creating FAF on the Spectralis, it couldn�t be easier.
I learned a few tips from Tim. I�ve been OVER sampling on the Spectralis
thinking I was helping, when in fact, hurting�
All told, as an �old dog� I like the less grainy images on the Fundus generated
FAF, but appreciate the work required to retro fit a camera if not a more
modern
instrument.
We�ve taken amazing images with the Spectralis. As with all things imaging,
if
you want your best photo, pick your best patient�..
MHO ( my humble opinion)
Denice
May I please transfer this conversation to the OPS general membership forum and
continue to encourage everyone to do so as well as we transition over to a one
stop shop for all things OPS.
Denice
Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS
Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center
CPMC Department of Ophthalmology
2100 Webster Street Suite 212
San Francisco CA 94115
(415) 600-3937 FAX (415) 600-6563
From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Angiographics
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:09 AM
To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optimal] FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
The retina doc at a practice I work with just found out that they own a Canon
CR-2 Plus in one of their remote offices. Can anyone comment on the FAF
(autofluorescence) on this camera? I could only find a few images online.
I realize this is designed as a non-myd, but we would probably take the images
dilated.
This opens a slightly larger question: is fundus camera FAF as good a tool as
Spectralis FAF? And please, I am more interested in diagnostic ability than
aesthetics.
Open the flamethrowers!
Marty Rothenberg
Angiographics, Inc
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Subject: [optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
From: Marc Gilels <vasion@xxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:49:06 -0400 (EDT)
Yes Marty, thanks for opening the discussion! Great topic. Making a dedicated
FAF unit out of a Myd camera you might
have in closet is a very cost effective idea. Topcon 50VTs, 50X, 50IA, 50EX,
Kowa 50R
Just an example.....
The shopping list:
FAF filters to replace current exciter and barrier.
Upper or lower port digital adapter (Depending on camera model)
Canon 5D Mark ii or iii
Retinaphile software, full version or just capture version
Average price to upgrade a 50EX lower port system with a 5D Mark ii (
reconditioned),,,,,$7,795.00.00
Close but less for upperport systems.
Financial interest
Marc Gilels
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From: Dale Brodsky <dale.brodsky@xxxxxxxxx>
To: optimal <optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon, Sep 9, 2013 12:20 pm
Subject: [optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
This is a sample of an FAF solution we developed for the Topcon 50EX. The
capture camera is a Canon 5D Mark II. We can also do the Zeiss FF4.
Generally, lack of utilization of the technology is commonplace. If there was a
billing code specific to FAF, popularity would dramatically increase, one would
think. I agree with Denise on how easy it is to create FAF's on the
Spectralis.
We came out with the fundus camera FAF version for those that cannot afford
higher end imaging solutions. It's straightforward and simple, too.
Marty, thanks for opening the discussion as FAF is an important diagnostic
tool,
by either SLO or fundus camera.
Financial interest.
Dale Brodsky
President - Fundus Photo, LLC - Digital Fundus Cameras and Upgrades
Owner - St. Louis Ophthalmic Equipment Company - in our 22nd year!
3015 Locust Street St. Louis, MO 63103 USA
314.533.6000 fax 314.534.6000 Mobile 314.406.3600
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On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Angiographics <angiolith@xxxxxxx> wrote:
The retina doc at a practice I work with just found out that they own a Canon
CR-2 Plus in one of their remote offices. Can anyone comment on the FAF
(autofluorescence) on this camera? I could only find a few images online.
I realize this is designed as a non-myd, but we would probably take the images
dilated.
This opens a slightly larger question: is fundus camera FAF as good a tool as
Spectralis FAF? And please, I am more interested in diagnostic ability than
aesthetics.
Open the flamethrowers!
Marty Rothenberg
Angiographics, Inc
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From: CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center <cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:49:42 -0700
Subject: [optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
What I BELIEVE I learned from Tim is that you can actually OVERsample your FAF
images. That as an experienced imager, once you obtain what appears to your
eye
to be a good image, you should stop sampling at that point.
Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS
Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center
CPMC Department of Ophthalmology
2100 Webster Street Suite 212
San Francisco CA 94115
(415) 600-3937 FAX (415) 600-6563
From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Lee, Katherine K.
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:36 PM
To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
Denice, What do you mean by "over sampling"? Should we not let the ART build
up
while trying to get a FAF with our spectralis?
Katherine K Lee COT
Storm Eye Institute
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Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 2:46 PM
To: 'optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [optimal] Re: FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
I can't speak to Fundus FAF, although Tim Bennett gave an outstanding OPS
Webinar last week on just this subject
As for creating FAF on the Spectralis, it couldn't be easier.
I learned a few tips from Tim. I've been OVER sampling on the Spectralis
thinking I was helping, when in fact, hurting...
All told, as an "old dog" I like the less grainy images on the Fundus generated
FAF, but appreciate the work required to retro fit a camera if not a more
modern
instrument.
We've taken amazing images with the Spectralis. As with all things imaging,
if
you want your best photo, pick your best patient.....
MHO ( my humble opinion)
Denice
May I please transfer this conversation to the OPS general membership forum and
continue to encourage everyone to do so as well as we transition over to a one
stop shop for all things OPS.
Denice
Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS
Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center
CPMC Department of Ophthalmology
2100 Webster Street Suite 212
San Francisco CA 94115
(415) 600-3937 FAX (415) 600-6563
From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Angiographics
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:09 AM
To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [optimal] FAF with the Canon CR-2 plus
The retina doc at a practice I work with just found out that they own a Canon
CR-2 Plus in one of their remote offices. Can anyone comment on the FAF
(autofluorescence) on this camera? I could only find a few images online.
I realize this is designed as a non-myd, but we would probably take the images
dilated.
This opens a slightly larger question: is fundus camera FAF as good a tool as
Spectralis FAF? And please, I am more interested in diagnostic ability than
aesthetics.
Open the flamethrowers!
Marty Rothenberg
Angiographics, Inc
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From: CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center <cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:23:29 -0700
Subject: [optimal] From Denice re Donation to the OPS Archives
A big hug to ex-OPS member Dennis Makes for his recent donation to the OPS
Archives
Many jewels in the box- most notably, a HARD BOUND copy of the much extinct
Textbook of Ophthalmic Photography by Don Wong. Truly, a collectors item.
Even
I only have a photocopy of this book.
Also, a signed original of Ophthalmic Photography edited by Johnny Justice.
Keep those donations coming. With the codicil, don't send to me without
contact
me first ( as Dennis did) as I can only accommodate so much stuff and don't
want
to be buried in stuff I ( the OPS) already has.
Denice
Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS
Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center
CPMC Department of Ophthalmology
2100 Webster Street Suite 212
San Francisco CA 94115
(415) 600-3937 FAX (415) 600-6563
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 18:18:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Leslie MacKeen <ldmackeen@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [optimal] Spectralis requisition forms
Hi Spectralis users,
I was having a discussion with an ophthalmologist friend who asked how people
set up their clinical requisition forms with respect to Spectralis imaging. �I
told her I would survey the group.
Any thoughts or suggestions, please post here or e-mail me directly at�
ldmackeen@xxxxxxxxx.
Many thanks in advance!
Leslie
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