John have not yet picked the vendors so wanted to understand so that can minimize the mistakes while picking up the one ........ btw , typically what i would like to understand is till what value of jitter can be tolarated in case of MPEG-2 TS into UDP/IP .........what are factors that can be considered within an IP STB to enable the IP STB to support high amount of jitters ...........typically what are the values of jitters that the existing IP STBs [ from amino , pace , kreatel ] etc will be able to tolerate without sacrifysing the video quality ................... & ya as you have stated why latency doesnt matters ? i think it does matter ............ and one more thnig how the middleware comes in to this or effects this ? its an issue related to encoders and video servers but not the middeware .................correct me if i have missed out anyting .....pls do so regards, Prashant ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McClenny" <jamcclenny@xxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:33 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: tolerance Latency , Jitters & packet loss issues for MPEG-2 TS over IP netwo > On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:05:04 +0530, Prashant Desai > <prashant.desai@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hello All > > > > Any one having an idea till what are the values for Latency,JITTER & Packet Loss that can be tolerated without sacrificing the quality of the MPEG-2 Video sent using MPEG-2 TS into UDP/IP. > > Latency doesn't matter at all. Jitter is taken care of by jitter > buffers in the STB and will not be problem with any well designed IP > network. Jitter hasn't been a problem in any IPTV networrk I have > seen. > > Packet loss is evil - any lost paclets show up either as lost video or > audio. You can add FEC, but some SIP STBs are not going to have the > processing power to do FEC in software and there aren't any IP STBs > with hardware FEC support. Some MPEG-4 system do really long time > jitter buffers and retry on lost multicast packets. > > Your middleware vendor better have the answer to all of the questions > or you picked the wrong vendor... > > Doc > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.