On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:32:15 -0500, Manfredi, Albert E <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > John Shutt wrote: > > > Interesting concept, making every subscriber's IPTV > > set-top-box in reality a member of a peer-to-peer > > network. The "edge servers" are the combined cluster > > of neighborhood STBs! > > Perhaps, but as Silvio mentioned, this is not the same > model as cable. For example, how will this model help > to deliver the Superbowl in real time to the entire > country? I did some design work on a Peer-To-Peer, HD in every STB distribution model for a dead startup. It is really only useful for preplaced content, such as newly released VOD titles. It basically was worse solution from a network perspective than just preplacing content with IP mulitcast. Even active IPTV networks have the interconnection point between adjacent households fairly far up the network. This didn't used to be true. but the security disaster that is the internet has forced the IPTV network to extreme measure to help protect you from your virus, trojan riddled neighbor. Security is the overriding network design issue now - for years ago, we designed a much more open network, while in my current project, the network is a fortress. It must be to survive. So we end up with a VPN to each house, no real interconnect between neighbors until we get fairly high up the distribution tree in the network. This negates the localization effect of a neighborhood PTP network and the advantage of that approach. Longer term, the amount of VOD content is just too large a catalog to have more than a fraction locally placed. Comcast has announced that they want 10,000 hours of VOD content available by the end of the year. That's a lot of disk space in MPEG-2 land, less in MPEG-4 land. Eventually, we are going to get to network DVR solutions to get the expensive HD out of the STB and move it into the network where we can both store more content and share the resource. This is basically the same model as a PTP STB network, just moving the storage a little closer to the center. A weird cost problem is driving the HD out of the STB - as IPTV STB prices fall, the incremental cost for adding a HD increases. Just for example, say that a very basic IPTV STB cost $100 (they still cost more in real life), while adding a HD adds $80 to the BOM. In the old days of 2002, that would have been an $80 addition to a $220 base price. The floor price of HDs doesn't drop, but the capacity increases with each generation. The incremental cost isn't just the HD, but increased Power Supply, connectors, larger case, colling, etc. The content people are the bottleneck in this right now, so the home based HD will be the solution in the near term. That will eventually change as they realize that their content is less likely ot get stolen if it is not sitting on a HD in the STB where it can be probed and prodded forever. As MSO cable plants move to a more switched video model, it becomes harder and harder to tell an IPTV network from a cable plant. The problems are the same and the solutions just are different. If the cable guys ditch the analog tier they even have more bandwidth, at the cost of an increase in complexity versus an IPTV network. But it is a complexity that they are comfortable with. Doc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.