Mark - Sorry about that. My parents were equating KCET with PBS, as it had become known around here over the years. So it was KCET that they really missed. But my point really was, that at least for some percentage of the population, OTA works just fine. From some local Internets posts (Mark, your EMail prompted me to look this up!): "Wanting to support our old hometown public television after not seeing it for some time, I watched an episode of local magazine-style news called So Cal Connected on KCET and afterward good old Huell Howser. I love the idea of this. At first I thought: there's no way this can be good not being part of PBS anymore. But then I realized this is amazing that they can focus solely on local programs and news for Angelenos. Nobody else really does this. Not those network news shows that cover mostly car accidents and shootings. That's not the whole story of this city. Now KCET is really serving the function and purpose of those early public television charters when they were first created: bringing the people closer together by informing them about other aspects of their community. It's truly great." --- "PBS will always be channel 28 to me. Back when television sets were actually sets and had actual dials, it was a hassle to watch anything on a channel higher than 13. Why? Well, because you had to twist the main dial to the AUX setting, and then you had to twist the auxiliary dial to the appropriate channel. And because this auxiliary dial had so many more numbers and because it was used less frequently, it was harder to twist accurately. In short, you really had to want to watch channel 28. And I did. Why, that's where Sesame Street was; and where would I be without all the fun counting skits, including the Count, the thing with the pastry chef slipping and dropping all his stuff, and the Pointer Sisters-sung counting one with the pinball machine? (Remember that?) So when we got cable, PBS was no longer on channel 28. I think it became channel 6. And it's pretty interesting that Los Angeles, one of the largest TV markets in the country and basically the home of television production, got its PBS station relegated to channel 28. How did San Francisco luck out with channel 9? I've got mixed feelings about PBS in general. There are some great shows, but there aren't as many great ones as there used to be. And it's completely abandoned its commitment to commercial-free television; there are now regular old ads that show all the time, including ones targeted at children before and after Sesame Street. Why would I want to support that?" --- There are many more posts on this issue (which I haven't followed at all, I fully admit). - Tom From: TLM [mailto:TLM@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:46 PM To: Opendtv (opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Subject: Side Note My 87 year old Mom & Pop have had cable for years. They pretty much stopped watching all except the local news, a few sporting events and PBS so they dropped down to basic cable. But when Time Warner dropped the local PBS station off of the Basic Cable tier (KCET) that was the last straw. Now there is a terrestrial TV antenna feeding the flat panel in their breakfast nook and they are happy as clams. (And the signal over the air from Mount Wilson looks much better anyway!). Tom McMahon Del Rey +1-310-717-7208 Mobile +1-310-822-2935 Land TLM@xxxxxxxxxx WWW.LinkedIn.Com/in/McMahonTV