[opendtv] Re: SINCLAIR TO AIR "A POW STORY: POLITICS, PRESSURE AND THE MEDIA"

  • From: Bob Miller <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:43:15 -0400

That works for Afghanistan but not necessarily Iraq. Saddam was single 
mindedly trying to stay alive IMO. He was not that great a supporter of 
Islam. He pointed Iraq in a more western direction allowing women to 
drive, embracing western culture across the board.

He was more a target of Islamic terrorist along with the royal family in 
Suadi Arabia and a secular leader like Musharraf in Pakistan. If Saddam 
supported terror is was in reflex action like the martyr family house 
payments to Palestinians with the aim to deflect the terrorism from 
himself.

The US after all made deals with Saddam in the past, he was a 
pragmatist, we could have probably easily made a deal with him this time 
also. In fact I think he expected it.

Bush made the easiest choice in picking Iraq as a target. He passed on 
N. Korea, Iran and Pakistan all far more in bed with terrorist and all 
far more lethal to the US in the VERY short run. Two of them could 
supply terrorist with actual nuclear weapons now and Iran could any time 
now.

Bush wouldn't have had to rely on faulty intelligence to decide whether 
these countries had ties to terrorist or possessed nuclear weapons. 
Pakistan has nuclear weapons, N. Korea says they have nuclear weapons 
and the missiles to deliver them and Iran is working furiously to have both.

So why did we attack Iraq? My first choice would have been Syria. They 
have contacts with terrorist. They have training camps all over the 
place. We have known about them for 30 years. Why did we make a deal 
with Pakistan instead of invading? We had the troupes right on the 
border, they had lots of terrorists that they were in bed with and they 
have nuclear weapons. They probably have Osama as well. Why are we 
bargaining with N. Korea instead of invading?

Why because its too hard. We don't do hard things. We look for easy 
things and our presidents tell us it will cost nothing. We buy off and 
make deals with the hard ones.

We all know why we invaded Iraq. It was supposed to be easy, Saddam had 
tried to kill Bush senior and it was politically a win win, or so we 
thought.

And I have to admit I was for the war. My only excuse is that I thought 
with Colin Powell around we would do it right. And I thought it would be 
easy also. I think it would have been also if we had gone in with 
overwhelming force and our allies. As it is we need a new president IMO.

Bob Miller



Dewey Weaver wrote:

>Bert - what this comes down to is a battle of good vrs evil starting with 
>militant islam wanting you and all of your children dead. Who are the folks 
>best equipped to deal with this reality? Those who worry about their hair 
>(never elect anyone who resembles a Q-tip) or those brave enough to set aside 
>political risk and take the fight to an enemy those who's goal is to destroy 
>Western civilization. 
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:27:46 -0400
>
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>>John Golitsis wrote:
>>
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>>
>>>Do my comments really sound partisan to you?  They
>>>weren't meant to be.  Who says that all Republicans
>>>are going to be in favour (note the CDN spelling) of
>>>this, anyway?  I'll bet that there's a good number
>>>who aren't.
>>>      
>>>
>>I hate to digress, but ...
>>
>>Excellent point. Folks in other countries are probably
>>unaware of the level of inconsistency that has crept
>>into the rhetoric of the two US political parties.
>>
>>The Democrats, back in the Carter years, were quite
>>happy with large deficits and were instrumental in
>>dismantling much of covert intelligence operations.
>>You can search on Church Committee Hearings for the
>>motivation for the latter:
>>
>>---------------------------------------
>>"In its consideration of covert action, the Committee
>>was struck by the basic tension--if not
>>incompatibility--of covert operations and the demands
>>of a constitutional system. Secrecy is essential to
>>covert operations; secrecy can, however, become a source
>>of power, a barrier to serious policy debate within the
>>government, and a means of circumventing the
>>established checks and procedures of government. The
>>Committee found that secrecy and compartmentation
>>contributed to a temptation on the part of the Executive
>>to resort to covert operations in order to avoid
>>bureaucratic, congressional, and public debate."
>>
>>The Church Committee, 1973
>>
>>http://pw1.netcom.com/~ncoic/cia_info.htm
>>---------------------------------------
>>
>>These days, the Democrats are finding themselves
>>having to object to the disconnected mess they
>>helped create in the intelligence community, and to
>>the lack of intelligence gathering assets that existed
>>before 9/11. Not to mention the deficit spending of
>>this administration, which they thought was perfectly
>>okay back when the economy was a shambles in the Carter
>>years (double digit inflation and unemployment).
>>
>>Anyone care to guess how the Vietnam War was funded?
>>
>>On the other side of the coin --
>>
>>The Republican party seems to have been highjacked
>>by the religious right? Republicans finding themselves
>>opposing scientific research on religious/moral
>>grounds? When did this happen? Or using human rights
>>arguments to justify an invasion? That's a strange
>>indeed. What happened to the undercurrent of
>>isolationism the Republicans have always been known
>>for?
>>
>>This is the weirdest election I've seen, certainly.
>>And it's even more strange to hear Democracts and
>>Republicans debate their inconsistent views so
>>vehemently.
>>
>>Bert
>>
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