[opendtv] Re: News: ATSC 2.0 and H.264 at HPA

  • From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:12:01 -0500

It is very hard for me to believe that 1080i/25 or 30 takes less than 1080p/24 for equivalent quality. (Assuming equal graininess)


- Tom


Craig Birkmaier wrote:
At 7:43 PM -0500 2/27/09, Manfredi, Albert E wrote:

So, am I to understand that with MPEG-2 compression, you need at the
very least:

21 Mb/s for 720p/50 (or 60)
24.2 Mb/s for 1080i
25.6 Mb/s for 1080p24 (or 25)

For equivalent quality, YES.


The fact is, fully granting that the end results might not be as good,
that MPEG-2 compression is commonly used for the formats listed above at
rates very close, if not identical, to those quoted as H.264
recommendations. Take PBS stations with their one HD and three SD
streams, all in 19.2 Mb/s. How much would the HD streams get, on
average?

The 50 percent improvement achieved with H.264 does not translate to
"can't be done with MPEG-2 at those same rates."

It could be done with MPEG-2 at half the rates proposed for h.264. But you get what you pay for when you start to quantize away the content...

Regards
Craig


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