Agreed, someone on the WMTalk list would probably know what the upgrade path is. But to answer your other question, there seems to be a lot of cool things in the upgrade. The broadcast flag is an issue, for sure, but that will affect all new PVR's equally. Consumers won't hold on to outdated hardware forever, and the functionality that you get with a fully blown PC rather than a standalone PVR is incredible, so there will be a lot of upgrades. Some compromises will need to be made on both sides - and I believe that broadcasters will bow to market pressure and will pretty much allow everything EXCEPT for commercial skipping. -dirk -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of John Willkie [johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 1:02 PM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: [Fwd: Google Alert - fcc broadcast flag] Dirk, isn't that a question for the WMTalk list that we're both on? And, since the upgrade will have the broadcast flag, why would you opt for that? John Willkie -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dirk Gently Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:12 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: [Fwd: Google Alert - fcc broadcast flag] I dumped my Tivo in the trash a few months ago and bought an MCE box - and of course, they immediately announce a new version of Media Center. Anyone know if there will be an upgrade path to MCE 2005? -dirk -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of John Willkie To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: [Fwd: Google Alert - fcc broadcast flag] This is somehow surprising to you? The alternative is that Media Center PCs would not be able to offer broadcast media (or would be removed from the U.S. market) on July 1, 2005. Do you actually think about these things? Or, do you simply react? John Willkie -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tom Barry Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 4:53 PM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] [Fwd: Google Alert - fcc broadcast flag] How wonderful. Windows Media Center will now honor the broadcast flag. - Tom -------- Original Message -------- Google Alert for: *fcc broadcast flag* Windows Media Center 2005 retail availability, details <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20041006-4276.html> Ars Technica - USA *...* is not feasible. MCE 2005 will recognize and respect the *broadcast* *flag* mandated by the *FCC*. *Broadcast* flags allow restrictions *...* _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.