[opendtv] Re: Europe now debates i vs p
- From: "Alan Roberts" <roberts.mugswell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:08:34 +0100
So you'll be pushing to eliminate 69.94 and 29.97 and 23.98 as well then?
And goodbye to drop-frame time code?
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Subject: [opendtv] Re: Europe now debates i vs p
> It's a shame if the Euros embark on HD with yet a different array of HD
standards: albeit the same spatial 1080i and 720p but 50Hz based.
>
> As the legacy of power frequency related display devices is no longer an
issue, what is wrong with 60Hz across the board?
>
> Terry Harvey
>
> >
> > From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: 2004/09/10 Fri AM 10:47:57 EDT
> > To: "OpenDTV (E-mail)" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [opendtv] Europe now debates i vs p
> >
> > If there's anything I can glean from the US HDTV
> > transition, it is that the i vs p debate was and
> > continues to be completely pointless, as long as
> > both options are accommodated. Much ado about
> > nothing, yet it goes on still.
> >
> > Bert
> >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Flat world gives HDTV hope
> > By Junko Yoshida and David Benjamin, EE Times
> > September 09, 2004 (3:38 PM EDT)
> > URL: http://www.eet.com/article/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=3D47101921
> >
> > AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - Explosive sales of flat-panel displays
> > in the consumer TV market might be the key that finally unlocks
> > the long-dormant potential of high-definition digital TV in
> > Europe, according to a panel of old HD hands at the
> > International Broadcasting Convention here Thursday (Sept. 9).
> >
> > To turn the key, however, said panelist Lars Haglund, senior R&D
> > researcher at Sverige Television (STV), Sweden's public TV
> > network, HD broadcasters must wean themselves away from
> > interlaced matrix display and adopt progressive scanning, which
> > is far more compatible with flat [LCD and plasma] displays.
> >
> > Europe, which pioneered the successful Digital Video Broadcast
> > (DVB) standard, has thus far focused only on standard definition
> > digital TV. Europe has revived discussions of the new HDTV spec
> > only recently.
> >
> > Citing an urgent need for production equipment that can deliver
> > television images of 720 lines of horizontal resolution at
> > 50-hertz progressive scanning, Haglund said, "We need a lot of
> > true high-definition programming to put out an HD service. We
> > need 50-hertz equipment now!" SVT is planning to have its new
> > "play out" center with a 720P/50 core operational by August 2006.
> > Although SVT isn't ready to offer 720-line progressive services,
> > producing programming in 720p is considered as the first
> > necessary step toward that goal.
> >
> > Speaking more cautiously, because his company supplies hardware
> > to broadcasters in both the interlaced and progressive scanning
> > camps, David Bancroft, manager of advance technologies at France's
> > Thomson, acknowledged, "We will probably see interlaced becoming
> > harder and more expensive to support in the long run. For that
> > reason, we would like to see progressive scanning taking hold."
> >
> > The renewed momentum behind the progressive scanning debate also
> > comes from a growing trend in which more TV production facilities
> > are beginning to use IT technologies. Bancroft said, "It's harder
> > to sustain a separate technology just for TV."
> >
> > The main obstacle to Haglund's dream and Bancroft's forecast was
> > sitting with them in the panel in the person of Ikuo Wada, deputy
> > director general for corporate planning at NHK, Japan's
> > state-subsidized public TV corporation and the world pioneer in
> > HDTV.
> >
> > NHK broadcasts more HD programming to a larger installed based of
> > HD TV sets than any other country, all in the 1080/50 interlaced
> > matrix it has been refining since the first analog HDTV broadcast
> > in 1986. Wada said Japan has little reason to change its
> > technology from interlaced to progressive scanning now, because
> > "de-interlacing technologies" are becoming commonly available
> > that, he claimed, will moot the issue. Many high-end flat
> > displays already come with "very sophisticated signal processing
> > systems," he added.
> >
> > The other leader in HDTV is the United States. Panelist Mike
> > Strein, director of media development and planning for ABC
> > Television, said his network broadcast 800 hours of HD
> > programming last year, "and 98 percent of it was 720 progressive
> > scan."
> >
> > With Japan committed to interlaced and the U.S. leading the world
> > in 720p, the balance will be tipped by the next major market
> > scheduled to adopt HD: Europe. Bancroft made clear which way
> > Europe - and, thanks to the flat panel boom, probably the world -
> > is leaning. He said, "If we have the opportunity to grab at
> > progressive scan, it's a good opportunity to take, and Europe
> > seems to provide that opportunity right now."
> >
> > Copyright 2003 CMP Media
> >
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