Yep, and specs weren't clear whether 720, 708, or 704 were the 4:3 width, and whether that corresponded to 486, 483, or 480 lines. Production Aperture, Display Aperture weren't accurate enough to matter in an analog world where 3 - 5% of your picture was cropped off in the CRT and there was no hope of a D1 sample lining up with a hole in a shadow mask. Now we have to encode in blocks of a fixed size and want the sample grid to align with the pixel grid in the display exactly, whenever possible. Scaling 704 to fill a 720w display, or 480 to 486 lines is unnecessarily ugly, but common. Most TV inputs will even scale up 1280x720 input a few percent just so they can throw away the edges. Insane ritual homage to the CRT. Kilroy -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Schubin Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:33 PM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: Definition of Anamorphic Kilroy Hughes wrote: > Just to complicate things ... > Everyone is using "720" as the width, but the display width and 4:3/16:9 > display aperture is actually supposed to be 704 (implying a Sample Aspect > Ratio in an MPEG codec too dumb to specify it as 11/10 H/W, 1.10), and it can > be encoded at 704 or 720. No question that it's 704 in ATSC (and probably some other systems), but there are also 720, 708, and other values. TTFN, Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.