[opendtv] Re: Commissioner O'Rielly comments at New Jersey Wireless Association
- From: Craig Birkmaier <brewmastercraig@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:23:44 -0400
On Oct 24, 2017, at 9:08 PM, Manfredi, Albert E
<albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Craig Birkmaier wrote:
Did you even read the content you asked me to research that I posted?
Holy crap! Not only did that brief IEEE blurb repeat exactly what I've been
telling you about 5G, but you don't even understand what that blurb says! The
small cells apply PRECISELY to how AT&T, Verizon, and Google, are going to be
deploying fixed wireless.
They do not. Small cells are designed to cover urban areas with very dense mesh
- i.e. 250 meters between devices. These cells will use millimeter band
frequencies and connect both to devices and to each other.
The trials mentioned above are using spectrum below 1 GHz, massive MIMO
antennas on cell towers with beam forming to support spectral reuse within the
area covered by the tower, and some type of receive antenna for wireless
broadband subscribers.
There will also be implementations in the millimeter band spectrum that will
involve placing devices on poles (where they exist) in neighborhoods. These
will typically operate at higher power levels than the small cells to reach
more homes - 250 meters would require a device on every other pole in my
neighborhood.
All of which create small cells, Craig.
No. The T-Mobile deployments with massive MIMO will provide coverage measured
in miles, not meters Bert. These deployments will be in the 600-700 MHz
spectrum, initially using LTE Advanced, which will be upgraded to 5G when the
standard is finished.
Small cells are needed to provide that 10X or more capacity increase compared
with 4G.
Yes. This is ONE of the advantage of dense mesh small cell deployments, along
with reduced latency and spectral reuse.
It makes no difference if you also deploy millimeter waves, or somewhat
longer wavelengths, such as 3.5 GHz (although 600 MHz is BS trade scribe
hype).
NO Bert. It is what some carriers are deploying in order to use 5G technology
to cover much larger areas around existing cell towers. The key is massive MIMO
with beam forming antennas.
Name one of the technologies they listed that makes you think big cells are
even feasible.
FOTFL
Massive MIMO? It requires very high frequencies, just to get those very many
base station antennas located in a reasonable area (we're talking many dozens
to hundreds of antennas).
T-Mobile is deploying massive MIMO antennas on towers in rural areas Bert.
You really need to STOP writing this crap and work on your reading
comprehension Bert.
Beam forming? It's a feature you get with massive MIMO. Millimeter waves?
Only makes cells smaller. What don't you get in any of this, Craig?
Because you are delivering Fake News here Bert. 5G will be deployed in many
form factors in almost all of the existing cellular spectrum, and new spectrum
in the millimeter bands.
Please take the time to understand this before spouting off again.
Connect the dots. An increase in cell capacity, compared with 4G, is achieved
with HIGHER FREQUENCIES and SMALLER CELLS. This has been going on ever since
1G. Cells have been getting smaller.
That is ONE way to use 5G. You can also use massive MIMO and beam forming at
lower frequencies to increase capacity in large cells. Rather than a frequency
being used for one connection to a tower, it will be possible to create MANY
connections around the tower.
I said this many times. FIRST educate yourself, THEN argue.
Teacher heal thyself.
And Craig misses it again. So, here is the link and the quote:
https://transition.fcc.gov/Reports/tcom1996.pdf
"(1) ADVANCED TELECOMMUNICATIONS CAPABILITY- The term`advanced
telecommunications capability' is defined, without regard to any transmission
media or technology, as high-speed, switched, broadband telecommunications
capability that enables users to originate and receive high-quality voice,
data, graphics, and video telecommunications using any technology."
Point 1: The definition of "advanced telecom capability" includes the term
"telecom," when it says "broadband."
Yes Bert the word telecom is used. Not all telecom services are regulated under
Title II. This has been true for MANY decades since the Computer 1 and Computer
II decisions. And the 1996 Act specifically tells the FCC to manage information
services under Title I, which was upheld by the Supreme Court around 2005.
It is a "broadband telecommunications capability." Therefore, a telecom
service. Even though this law never defines "broadband service"
*specifically*, it does at least suggest that such a service is a telecom
service.
SO?
Point 2: Where, in this law, do you see "broadband service" or alternatively
"advanced telecom service," ever described as an "information service"?
Where, Craig? Show us.
I did.
END OF THREAD
Regards
Craig
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