Hello, Did someone call my name ? Tom Barry wrote: > Also, the back lights of LCD TVs, when they aren't LED, are fluorescent. > So my impression is that blinking it off, e.g. to improve black levels, > might save more energy than going to LEDs? I'm not sure. Jeroen probably > has the numbers. I wrote about this for the SID 2006, paper 26.4: "Algorithm for Contrast Reserve, Backlight Dimming, and Backlight Boosting on LCD". At that time we were working on a scanning backlight with HCFL tubes (i.e. your typical TL5 office lighting tubes), that could provide 300% to 400% of the nominal backlight power. So we would typically run them at 25%-33% duty cycle, and scanning from top to bottom in sync with the display refresh at 100 or 120 Hz. We could dim them down to 8% duty cycle or so, and we could boost them for a short time to 100%. The average power consumption was guarded by a control loop, and we could select any figure for the average power that we liked. Thus, we could save significant power from dynamic backlight dimming. In the mean time, the thick HCFL tubes have been abandoned for LCD backlighting. Thin CCFL tubes are still the norm, very quickly to be overtaken by edge-lit and direct-lit LED backlights. Typically these do not have the power reserve for boosting, but they can be dimmed. If the duty cycle becomes < 50% or so, then it makes sense to scan them from top to bottom. This then turns a "100 Hz" TV into a "200 Hz" TV, because the on-time becomes 5 ms or less. It is the on-time (not the response time !) that determines the motion smear on the retina, and thus the sharpness of moving objects. A dimmable backlight, especially if it is addressable (2D dimmable direct-lit LED backlight), has many advantages: - improved black level on dark scenes, - improved viewing angle and color saturation on dark scenes (for IPS panels anyway), - improved motion portrayal (when scanning) on dark scenes, - reduced average power consumption, - reduced temperature, - increased life time. It is no secret (it is demonstrated at every exhibition) that backlight dimming is the most important tool for reducing the power consumption, followed by brightness enhancement foils from 3M Vikuiti and minor improvements to the LCD itself. Given that an LCD transmits approx. 5% of the light in the on-state, and < 0.01% in the off-state, there is always a lot of room for improvement. One person who is fully committed to do something about this, she designed the very-low-power display for the One Laptop Per Child, is Mary Lou Jepsen of Pixel-Qi, with offices in California and Taiwan. See: http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/17/pixel-qi-e-ink-lcd-hybrid-display-to-debut-on-tablet-next-mont/ Her displays are transflective and they turn to black-and-white in daylight with the backlight off, with a very good contrast. It's people like her who set new standards, and I think that it is wise of the California government to make sure that the competition stays alert. Without regulation, not enough is going to happen. Strangely, OLED which is an emissive display that lights up only when needed, does not yet promise to be much more efficient. Groeten, -- Jeroen Jeroen H. Stessen Specialist Picture Quality Philips Consumer Lifestyle Advanced Technology (Eindhoven) High Tech Campus 37 - room 8.042 5656 AE Eindhoven - Nederland The information contained in this message may be confidential and legally protected under applicable law. The message is intended solely for the addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, forwarding, dissemination, or reproduction of this message is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by return e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.