On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Manfredi, Albert E <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Who knows how long it will take before the pundits realise that hard-wiring > only select web sites to these new Internet TVs will only be a recipe for > instant obsolescence? > > We can see what the real objective of this game is. Set up a restricted set > of "anointed" web sites, then shut the wide open door to them. It's a little more complex. Yahoo functions off the concept of widgets (akin to Apple's 'apps'). You can develop your own and upload it to their widget backend where it becomes available in the widget gallery ('app store') for user download/install. No walled garden. Gatekeeper. Google's app store takes the same approach. Code your app, submit it, and it becomes available on Google's app store (or TV app store when that is available). No walled garden. Gatekeeper. So the obvious problem here is that of the single gatekeeper. There are ways around it but not for the regular user. If google or yahoo decide they cant make a buck, you're screwed in the name of planned obsolescence. Boy do we like to repeat our past. Was Microsoft WebTV, ActiveDesktop, etc. not enough for us to learn? Roku, XBMC and Boxee have the best approach, however, in that they use the notion of 'repositories'. The default install uses their central repository for 'widgets' but you are free to install your own from third party repositories. The devkit is completely open. The box does not require any connecivity to the gatekeeper. That way, if the gatekeeper dies, a 3rd party open source repository can provide full source for and update free remakes of the original widgets (and new ones). And regarding your constant harping on 'this is a walled garden due to the fact that I need a custom version of every site' well, no you don't. Most platforms these days allow the developer to make a widget encapsulating a browser engine i.e. webkit. Problem is, rendering a regular website 9/10 times looks like crap, hence the fact that companies will reformat their site for mobile and tv displays. For those that don't, you just install a 'browser' app, make your own, or use the default one provided on the platform, making this a non-issue. Cheers Kon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.