Greetings all, Just got home after being out of town and away from my computer all weekend. I see that a couple of others have weighed in on these birds already. I by offering that I believe all three birds in Brandon's photos are Long-billed Dowitchers. However, before deciding which species you have, I think that there are a couple of important steps to follow. One relates to shorebird ID in general and the second is dowitcher specific. Step 1: With any shorebird, the first question is age/plumage. The orange/cinnamon underparts of these dowitchers makes them adults in alternate ("breeding") plumage. Step 2: If you think you are looking at an alternate-plumaged Short-billed Dowitcher, geography is a factor in the appearance of the bird. You need to know which of the three subspecies is expected where. In Oregon, the expected subspecies is L. g. caurinus, referred to by Sibley and others as the "Pacific" form. The nominate subspecies L. g. griseus–generally referred to as the "Atlantic" form–breeds in eastern Canada and migrates along the East Coast of North America. To my knowledge this subspecies has never been documented in Oregon (it would be very tough given the similarity to caurinus). A third subspecies, L. g. hendersoni, is generally called the "prairie" or "interior" form, as it breeds in central Canada and migrates mostly through the center of the continent, with few detections on either coast. A quick look at Brandon's photos readily takes two of the three Short-billed Dowitcher subspecies out of consideration. Alternate-plumaged griseus and caurinus show extensive white on the belly, with the bright cinnamon/orange limited to the throat, foreneck and upper breast. Further, they have heavy dark barring from just below the shoulder down the length of the flanks. None of the birds photographed by Brandon have white bellies, nor do they show extensive enough cinnamon/orange below or enough dark barring on the flanks to be either griseus or caurinus. Having gone through the fairly straightforward process above, we can reduce the potential identifications of these birds from four taxa (Long-billed Dowitcher and three subspecies of Short-billed Dowitcher) down to two (Long-billed Dowitcher and one subspecies of Short-billed Dowitcher). Given that the underparts are almost completely orange/cinnamon, these birds all have to be either adult alternate-plumaged Long-billeds (only one subspecies) or adult alternate Short-billeds of the L. g. hendersoni subspecies. At this point it should be noted that at best hendersoni Short-billed Dowitchers should be considered rare but annual migrants in Oregon, Washington, and California and that the well-documented detections of this form along the Pacific Coast are few and far between. As a general rule, it is relatively safe to assume that if you see an alternate-plumaged adult dowitcher in Oregon (particularly western Oregon) that is almost entirely cinnamon/orange below, it's a Long-billed. Not being one to dismiss the possibility of hendersoni Short-billed out of hand, I think it's important to visit the differences between Long-billed and the prairie form of Short-billed. There are two key things to look at. I learned about the first one from a wonderful blog piece that Greg Gillson did on this topic a few years back. Using photos of a bird that was originally thought to be a hendersoni, Greg pointed out one critical field mark that we can see on all of the birds in Brandon's photos. It relates to the dark barring on the flanks. In fresh alternate plumage (acquired during a late-winter/early-spring molt), the dark bars seen on the flanks of Long-billed Dowitchers are subterminal dark bars on the feathers, with the tips of those feathers and most of the others on the flanks and belly being fringed with white (wears off quickly later in the season). With hendersoni Short-billed Dowitchers, the dark barring is terminal (on the tip of the flank feathers) and there is no white fringing on the underparts. Looking closely at Brandon's photos, all three birds show white fringing on the belly and flank feathers, including those with subterminal dark barring. Here's a link to Greg's excellent ID piece:http://thebirdguide.com/identification/dowitchers/interesting_dowitcher.htm Another good field mark in separating this pair is the presence or absence of spotting on the foreneck and throat. Long-billeds have spotting on the foreneck and throat, while hendersoni Short-billed Dowitchers are almost entirely lacking in spotting on the foreneck and throat. Whenever anyone asks me about dowitcher ID, I invariably point them to the Sibley Guide, which for my money offers the best treatment of Short-billed and Long-billed Dowitchers of any of the standard (non-specialty/family group) guides. I really like the accuracy of his illustrations and if you look closely at his paintings of Long-billed Dowitcher and hendersoni Short-billed Dowitcher, the field marks described above are all shown. Though it is not mentioned in Sibley's arrowed text, his illustration of Long-billed Dowitcher the white fringing on the flanks of the alternate-plumaged adult. As chance would have it, Shawneen Finnegan and I encountered a couple of flocks of alternate-plumaged adult Long-billed Dowitchers near Tillamook today. I took a few photos, one of which shows the field marks discussed above. It can be viewed at the link below: http://www.birdfellow.com/members/dave_irons/field_reports/782-long-billed-dowitchers-along-the-wilson-river-12-may-2013 Dave IronsPortland, OR