And then there is the question of whether the drive really is private. Homeowners sometimes post keep out signage on roads that are actually public. I think this was done on Fenk Road a few years back. However, it is obviously a bad idea to poke a bees nest. -- Alan Contreras acontrer56@xxxxxxxxx Cohabiting Eugene, Oregon and Louisville, Colorado through July, 2014. From: Christopher Hinkle <christopher.hinkle2@xxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: Christopher Hinkle <christopher.hinkle2@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Thursday, December 5, 2013 4:57 PM To: OBOL <obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [obol] Yellow-throated Warbler homeowner issues What did the birders do to upset the homeowners? Were they just walking the common gravel drive? Or did they go right up to the house? Unless I'm mistaken, if there's no "private drive" or "no trespassing" sign at a border between the public right or way and a private drive, according to Oregon law, birding on that road is not considered trespassing. Is this correct? I'm just wondered if the birders actually trespassed, or if the owners were upset because the birders were merely being inconsiderate. I did not go on the gravel driveway, nor am I condoning it. And I realize there is a no trespassing sign now. Even if it's legal, it is good to consider the wishes of the landowner anyway. Good luck to the warbler and warbler chasers. It's supposed to snow tomorrow. Cheers, Chris Hinkle