Hi Tiffany - that's a great question - I am not sure if there are limited
spots or not. I know that my wife uses the ParkMobile App and when I looked
on the App it said that parking was available until 1:59 AM (starting when
she started at 7:45 AM).
On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 5:17 PM Cooper Tiffany <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
This is news to me. I thought TKPK opposed the all day parking option due
to traffic impacts? Are there limited spots for this? It doesn’t matter to
me personally as I walk to the metro and don’t use the parking there. I do
see signs walking by that limit parking to anyone that works a core workday
schedule.
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On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:07 PM, Jseelke <jseelke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I understand the signs are confusing. However if it helps the new
ParkMobile spots allow you to park for 18 hours (you can leave your car
there for that long for $5). That’s more in line with other Metro stations
like Ft Totten.
I am not sure the emptiness is due to confusion (possibly) or more so
fewer people traveling into DC and being able to work from home.
John Seelke
Richmond Ave
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On Apr 29, 2022, at 4:23 PM, Melissa McNulty <mel.mcnulty@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
The hours that patrons are allowed to park at the current lot are so
confusing that I avoid it altogether, as do many others, judging from how
empty it usually is. It's certainly not possible for a person working 9-5
to park there. I commute every day and walk a mile each way to and from
Metro because parking is not possible and bus service is limited and
unreliable.
Melissa (on Ray)
On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 2:36 PM Dvidutis <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
1. That parking lot could have been beautiful, with rows
of blooming trees planted between rows of cars (I saw that done
breathtakingly at Indiana University) but metro did not.
2. That parking lot could have been user-friendly but it never was
(except for being free on weekends). Don’t blame the space for the
confusion.
3. Call me crazy, but I walk home from the metro in the middle of the
night all the time. I think it is more of a function of where you are
walking to. Living on Piney branch, my route is well lit and well traveled.
Don’t blame the parking lot if your neighborhood is quiet and secluded. I
have absolutely never had a problem on Metro property.
4. Unless an apartment unit is actually purchased by a resident, it
is not building the wealth of anybody but a slumlord. Many creeps
grow wealthy on renting out section 8 housing.
5. Two acres of grass located against a 7 story building is not green
space but a spot for your dog to pee.
6. If this project is so great, why aren’t they building it in White
Flint, which has a metro stop and many many many acres of free land.
Diana Vidutis
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On Friday, April 29, 2022, 12:19 PM, John Seelke <jseelke@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi all,
To rework the famous line from Joni Mitchell, I don't believe that anyone
wants to continue to have paradise paved over by a parking lot. Ilana,
thank you for sharing much of what you shared.
What I hope that you (or anyone else who has some influence on the
details), can focus on are all of the small details that can lead to a
wonderful project or an idea become quite frustrating. I am going to focus
on the parking aspect here. As some of our neighbors have noted, they feel
much safer being able to drive to their homes (even if they are a short
distance) than walking, particularly late at night. Others, like my wife,
may drive into work. IF (and this is the key, in my opinion) the parking
spaces are configured and arranged so that there is flexibility for someone
who works 9-5 downtown to use a spot, as well as for those that are using
retail OR someone who may be going into the city in the evening for a
Nationals game, etc. What I would hate to see is a situation where there is
two hour parking, and that tickets are being written for people if their
cars are there past a certain time.
I hope that these comments make some sense. I (and I think many others)
are NOT against adding affordable housing (it was good to hear there will
be some 3-bedrooms that are affordable - one question I have is HOW do we
get those that live locally to access to these affordable homes). And I
hope that such details like I described above can be taken into
consideration. So often well intentions plans go array because there isn't
consideration of the little details.
Thanks all
john seelke
richmond ave
On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 10:26 AM Ilana Preuss <ilanap1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi neighbors -
To bring a different perspective to this conversation, I support the
development at the metro and I think the new design and plan is really
strong.
I had a chance to see a presentation on it and I think it is really
thoughtful. I believe that we need more housing options for more people
near metro stations, and I believe that one of the only ways we start to
right the wrongs of the racism baked into how our neighborhoods were
developed (I know, before us, but still a problem) is by inviting more
people to be a part of the who are at different price points than our
houses are at this point. I also think more people in the neighborhood is
great for our local businesses. Our TP main street businesses are thriving
significantly because of the new apartments that went up around our
downtown.
A few pieces about the plan that I like specifically:
The development will have double the amount of affordable apartments
required by DC and some of the 3 bedroom apartments will be set aside for
low-income households.
There will be short-term parking onsite for people to use - it will be
available for people going to the stores, but can also be used by people
going downtown for part of the day, similar to what we have now. They are
also keeping all of the bus bays and existing bus service.
I love that the design has stores facing Carroll - it will really knit
together our main street from Takoma DC to Takoma Park and help unite our
neighborhoods - which I think is really important.
The developer is also proposing a 2 acre park along the side facing
Eastern and coming around to Carroll that they will build and maintain and
offer for community events.
There's a lot more, but I encourage folks to learn more about the new
design instead of basing the discussion off of guesses or the old plans.
I am glad we can have an open and respectful conversation about the
proposed development at the metro station on our listserv, share our
difference of opinions about it, and each learn more about it too.
ILANA
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 10:00 PM Stephanie Smilay <ssmilay@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
If there is no parking at the Metro, then it is absolutely required to
have bus service as long as the Metro is running. I’m too old to walk
even 3/4 of a mile at midnight.
It may be the intent of the developers to get us all into our cars and
drive downtown, which is probably what I will end up doing. Maybe they
have an interest in the parking garages downtown? It’s certainly
something to look into.
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On Apr 27, 2022, at 10:37 PM, Richard P. Cember <
dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Here's my two cents' worth on this. (OK, more like twenty cents' worth.)
1. Construction waste accounts for something like 20% of municipal solid
waste nationwide. It is not a trivial environmental impact. Neither is the
manufacture and transportation of the construction materials.
2. Even parking lots are a kind of open space. I know it is heresy to say
that. That is not to say that all parking lots serve that function, nor
that they should proliferate. And usually a park would be better. But small
surface lots in particular do loosen up the urban fabric just a little here
and there in a way that provides a kind of relief. The current T.P. metro
is kind of a cross between a park and a parking lot. It's not unpleasant.
3. In regard to density, Metro is already not able to handle the
ridership that it has. It's also a rotten experience. It's also on limited
service half the time. I avoid it when I can. I know that's heresy, too.
But let's be honest about it.
4. Unless you are a civil servant or you own your own stable business,
you can't rely on living near your work for more than a few years, until
your next job change. I have twice worked in Silver Spring as a contractor
for NOAA, and walked to work there in both cases, in all seasons. That
accounts for a total of about five of the twenty-one years that I have
lived here. If you have kids in day care, in most cases you need your car.
That last one is a very strong reality.
5. No parking at the Takoma Metro means no use of the Takoma Metro
station by people who live more than a short walk away. I guess people
could park in the Bonifant-Dixon garage in Silver Spring and get on the
train there. In fact, that is what I do whenever I do need to use the
Metro. So I suppose losing that station parking is no big deal.
6. Living where I do, for most of the twenty-one years that I have been
in T.P., I used Silver Spring for most commercial needs. Now it is much
less so for me. It is no longer possible to move around there by car. It's
overbuilt and too congested. Every trip is interrupted by construction, or
just plain traffic. You could say I should go on foot, but I am not going
to do that for, say, grocery shopping, because I don't want to be doing
that every two days, or carrying milk for a half hour in 90-degree weather.
Or when I am busy and I need something from the hardware store. For an
hour's walk on a nice day, sure. For practical purposes, no.
Does this add up to a policy argument against the development? No,
because I have not carefully studied the issues. Plus, even with careful
study of the issues, how you come out depends on what you think is
important among valid competing concerns.
Does it mean that, honestly, that I would greatly prefer it if the
project just goes away? Honestly, yes.
Richard Cember
Boston Ave.
