This is news to me. I thought TKPK opposed the all day parking option due to
traffic impacts? Are there limited spots for this? It doesn’t matter to me
personally as I walk to the metro and don’t use the parking there. I do see
signs walking by that limit parking to anyone that works a core workday
schedule.
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On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:07 PM, Jseelke <jseelke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I understand the signs are confusing. However if it helps the new ParkMobile
spots allow you to park for 18 hours (you can leave your car there for that
long for $5). That’s more in line with other Metro stations like Ft Totten.
I am not sure the emptiness is due to confusion (possibly) or more so fewer
people traveling into DC and being able to work from home.
John Seelke
Richmond Ave
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On Apr 29, 2022, at 4:23 PM, Melissa McNulty <mel.mcnulty@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The hours that patrons are allowed to park at the current lot are so confusing
that I avoid it altogether, as do many others, judging from how empty it
usually is. It's certainly not possible for a person working 9-5 to park there.
I commute every day and walk a mile each way to and from Metro because parking
is not possible and bus service is limited and unreliable.
Melissa (on Ray)
On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 2:36 PM Dvidutis
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
1. That parking lot could have been beautiful, with rows of blooming trees
planted between rows of cars (I saw that done breathtakingly at Indiana
University) but metro did not.
2. That parking lot could have been user-friendly but it never was (except for
being free on weekends). Don’t blame the space for the confusion.
3. Call me crazy, but I walk home from the metro in the middle of the night all
the time. I think it is more of a function of where you are walking to. Living
on Piney branch, my route is well lit and well traveled. Don’t blame the
parking lot if your neighborhood is quiet and secluded. I have absolutely never
had a problem on Metro property.
4. Unless an apartment unit is actually purchased by a resident, it is not
building the wealth of anybody but a slumlord. Many creeps grow wealthy on
renting out section 8 housing.
5. Two acres of grass located against a 7 story building is not green space but
a spot for your dog to pee.
6. If this project is so great, why aren’t they building it in White Flint,
which has a metro stop and many many many acres of free land.
Diana Vidutis
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On Friday, April 29, 2022, 12:19 PM, John Seelke
<jseelke@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jseelke@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi all,
To rework the famous line from Joni Mitchell, I don't believe that anyone wants
to continue to have paradise paved over by a parking lot. Ilana, thank you for
sharing much of what you shared.
What I hope that you (or anyone else who has some influence on the details),
can focus on are all of the small details that can lead to a wonderful project
or an idea become quite frustrating. I am going to focus on the parking aspect
here. As some of our neighbors have noted, they feel much safer being able to
drive to their homes (even if they are a short distance) than walking,
particularly late at night. Others, like my wife, may drive into work. IF (and
this is the key, in my opinion) the parking spaces are configured and arranged
so that there is flexibility for someone who works 9-5 downtown to use a spot,
as well as for those that are using retail OR someone who may be going into the
city in the evening for a Nationals game, etc. What I would hate to see is a
situation where there is two hour parking, and that tickets are being written
for people if their cars are there past a certain time.
I hope that these comments make some sense. I (and I think many others) are NOT
against adding affordable housing (it was good to hear there will be some
3-bedrooms that are affordable - one question I have is HOW do we get those
that live locally to access to these affordable homes). And I hope that such
details like I described above can be taken into consideration. So often well
intentions plans go array because there isn't consideration of the little
details.
Thanks all
john seelke
richmond ave
On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 10:26 AM Ilana Preuss
<ilanap1@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilanap1@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi neighbors -
To bring a different perspective to this conversation, I support the
development at the metro and I think the new design and plan is really strong.
I had a chance to see a presentation on it and I think it is really thoughtful.
I believe that we need more housing options for more people near metro
stations, and I believe that one of the only ways we start to right the wrongs
of the racism baked into how our neighborhoods were developed (I know, before
us, but still a problem) is by inviting more people to be a part of the who are
at different price points than our houses are at this point. I also think more
people in the neighborhood is great for our local businesses. Our TP main
street businesses are thriving significantly because of the new apartments that
went up around our downtown.
A few pieces about the plan that I like specifically:
The development will have double the amount of affordable apartments required
by DC and some of the 3 bedroom apartments will be set aside for low-income
households.
There will be short-term parking onsite for people to use - it will be
available for people going to the stores, but can also be used by people going
downtown for part of the day, similar to what we have now. They are also
keeping all of the bus bays and existing bus service.
I love that the design has stores facing Carroll - it will really knit together
our main street from Takoma DC to Takoma Park and help unite our neighborhoods
- which I think is really important.
The developer is also proposing a 2 acre park along the side facing Eastern and
coming around to Carroll that they will build and maintain and offer for
community events.
There's a lot more, but I encourage folks to learn more about the new design
instead of basing the discussion off of guesses or the old plans.
I am glad we can have an open and respectful conversation about the proposed
development at the metro station on our listserv, share our difference of
opinions about it, and each learn more about it too.
ILANA
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 10:00 PM Stephanie Smilay
<ssmilay@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ssmilay@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
If there is no parking at the Metro, then it is absolutely required to have bus
service as long as the Metro is running. I’m too old to walk even 3/4 of a
mile at midnight.
It may be the intent of the developers to get us all into our cars and drive
downtown, which is probably what I will end up doing. Maybe they have an
interest in the parking garages downtown? It’s certainly something to look
into.
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On Apr 27, 2022, at 10:37 PM, Richard P. Cember
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Here's my two cents' worth on this. (OK, more like twenty cents' worth.)
1. Construction waste accounts for something like 20% of municipal solid waste
nationwide. It is not a trivial environmental impact. Neither is the
manufacture and transportation of the construction materials.
2. Even parking lots are a kind of open space. I know it is heresy to say that.
That is not to say that all parking lots serve that function, nor that they
should proliferate. And usually a park would be better. But small surface lots
in particular do loosen up the urban fabric just a little here and there in a
way that provides a kind of relief. The current T.P. metro is kind of a cross
between a park and a parking lot. It's not unpleasant.
3. In regard to density, Metro is already not able to handle the ridership that
it has. It's also a rotten experience. It's also on limited service half the
time. I avoid it when I can. I know that's heresy, too. But let's be honest
about it.
4. Unless you are a civil servant or you own your own stable business, you
can't rely on living near your work for more than a few years, until your next
job change. I have twice worked in Silver Spring as a contractor for NOAA, and
walked to work there in both cases, in all seasons. That accounts for a total
of about five of the twenty-one years that I have lived here. If you have kids
in day care, in most cases you need your car. That last one is a very strong
reality.
5. No parking at the Takoma Metro means no use of the Takoma Metro station by
people who live more than a short walk away. I guess people could park in the
Bonifant-Dixon garage in Silver Spring and get on the train there. In fact,
that is what I do whenever I do need to use the Metro. So I suppose losing that
station parking is no big deal.
6. Living where I do, for most of the twenty-one years that I have been in
T.P., I used Silver Spring for most commercial needs. Now it is much less so
for me. It is no longer possible to move around there by car. It's overbuilt
and too congested. Every trip is interrupted by construction, or just plain
traffic. You could say I should go on foot, but I am not going to do that for,
say, grocery shopping, because I don't want to be doing that every two days, or
carrying milk for a half hour in 90-degree weather. Or when I am busy and I
need something from the hardware store. For an hour's walk on a nice day, sure.
For practical purposes, no.
Does this add up to a policy argument against the development? No, because I
have not carefully studied the issues. Plus, even with careful study of the
issues, how you come out depends on what you think is important among valid
competing concerns.
Does it mean that, honestly, that I would greatly prefer it if the project just
goes away? Honestly, yes.
Richard Cember
Boston Ave.
