[ncsc-moths] Re: Wake County Mothing 2/14 - 2/17
- From: "J. Merrill Lynch" <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:15:47 -0500
Keep looking, they're out there somewhere! I actually looked at the German
Cousin (great name!)--the key field mark is a yellow mid-dorsal stripe on
the thorax which I can't make out from the side view. You didn't by chance
get a dorsal shot of the moth, did you?
Merrill
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Kyle Kittelberger
<kkturtledude@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Hi Merrill,
>
> Glad you liked my list. Thank you for the identification help. I keep
> hoping to find a Small Phigalia amongst all of the Toothed's.
> I agree with you that both Ali and my Sloping Sallows are actually Speckled
> Green Fruitworm Moths, as you mentioned.
> As for my mystery moth, the best guess I have is that it could be a German
> Cousin, 10266. But I have no experience with this moth.
>
> Kyle
>
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> *From:* J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> *To:* ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Fri, February 18, 2011 11:52:31 AM
>
> *Subject:* [ncsc-moths] Re: Wake County Mothing 2/14 - 2/17
>
> Kyle,
>
> Impressive list. I think your Phigalia photos are denticulata. The pm
> line in denticulata generally has a big bend as it approaches the inner
> margin. In strigataria the pm line is straighter as it approaches the inner
> margin. Also, my experience is strigataria flies later in the spring. I
> went back and checked my mystery micro photo (I had totally forgotten about
> it) and I think you may be right that it's a palmerworm moth. They
> overwinter as adults which would obviously make them a likely species to
> encounter during a winter warm spell.
>
> I'm wondering about the sloping sallows that you and Ali reported. I'm not
> familiar with that species but I note in Bugguide that it is a fall flyer.
> And, Ali's photo, to my eye anyway, looks a lot like the Speckled
> Green Fruitworm Moth (Orthosia hibisci) #10495 which is very common and an
> early spring flyer.
>
> I'm stumped by your mystery moth. Has the jiz of a Psaphida but doesn't
> match anything in MPG.
>
> Merrill
>
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:38 AM, Kyle Kittelberger <kkturtledude@xxxxxxxxx
> > wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> This past week proved to be the most productive week I have probably ever
>> had for moths. On the eve of the 14th I set up my moth black light sheet,
>> but also placed some mushed up banana and brown sugar on a post. Though
>> nothing actually came to the bait (except raccoons), I had an unbelievable
>> number of moths at the sheet. The first moths i had were several Sloping
>> Sallows, a lifer for me. Straight-toothed sallows also were present, as well
>> as many phigalias, a possible Three-spotted sallow (check photo), a Common
>> Oak Moth (lifer), and a micro moth. After doing some reserach i discovered
>> that my micro was a Palmerworm Moth #2281, another lifer for me (Merrill, if
>> you are reading this, i believe this is what your mystery micro moth from
>> earlier in the month is). I also had a Dimorphic Pinion, which interestingly
>> was burrying itself in the leaves.
>> Tonight was another fantastic night, and this time I set up moth baits in
>> several areas, either painting my concoction of rotten banana, brown sugar,
>> sugar, and some wine on trees or running rope in the mix and then hanging
>> this. Within 20 to 30 minutes of me putting out these baits, i already had
>> sallows feeding on them. The 'usual' sallows (Sloping, Straight-toothed)
>> were present, as well as a couple Oak moths. I had a Variable Sallow on one
>> of my ropes, a lifer for me. I also had a noctuid moth on my sheet that i
>> can't id. I have posted a pic, any help would be greatly appreciated!
>> Below are the lists of moths i had for the 14th and 17th. I have also
>> attached a couple pics of phigalias that i believe are Small Phigalias, but
>> i am not an expert with these species. And image 0686 I am not sure about
>> either; is it a Palmerworm Moth (image 0684) too? If anyone can help me with
>> these identifications that would be terrific!
>>
>> *February 14th:*
>> *2281 Palmerworm Moth- 1 Lifer!*
>> 6658 Half-wing - 1
>> 6659 Toothed Phigalia- 15
>> 6662 Spring Cankerworm- 2
>> 7416 Bent-line Carpet Moth - 1
>> 8465 Green Cloverworm- 1
>> *8591 Common Oak Moth- 1 Lifer!*
>> 9886 Dimorphic Pinion- 1
>> 9933 Straight-toothed Sallow- 3
>> 9935 Three-spotted Sallow? - 1 check image
>> *9946 Sloping Sallow- 4 Lifer!*
>>
>> *February 17th:*
>> 2281 Palmerworm Moth- 1
>> 6659 Toothed Phigalia- 2
>> 6662 Spring Cankerworm- 1
>> 8465 Green Cloverworm- 4
>> 8591 Common Oak Moth- 2
>> 9933 Straight-toothed Sallow- 3
>> *9941 Variable Sallow- 1 Lifer!*
>> 9946 Sloping Sallow- 6
>> *Mystery moth- 1 See pic 0731*
>>
>> Happy mothing,
>>
>> Kyle Kittelberger
>> Raleigh, NC
>> www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> J. Merrill Lynch
> Echo Valley Farm
> Watauga County, NC
> Elevation: 3,400 feet
>
>
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J. Merrill Lynch
Echo Valley Farm
Watauga County, NC
Elevation: 3,400 feet
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