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help with Frodo....and for checking with your friend who has such extensive
experience with immobile bunnies. I know the Desitin had too much zinc,
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On 12/10/2021 2:35 PM Janet G <wildharerescue@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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So sorry the A and D isn’t working Brenda, gosh it always worked here but
like I said my bunnies could still stand and didn’t lie in it during the day,
except for the hares and Micah but the vet bedding helped. I will ask my friend
about the butt paste now. As soon as she gets back to me I will let you know,
the butt paste only has 12 % zinc, not 40% like the other diaper rash
ointments. So I don’t think it will hurt, but I will still ask her.
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Has anyone else used zinc oxide on a rabbit that is in contact with
other rabbits? My husband is very worried about using Butt Paste, he is afraid
he’ll kill Balin, and so we have to choose between Balin and Frodo, which one
to save, which has to be Balin.
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Frodo’s skin still was dark pink and scaly this morning, even
after the SDD before bed and diapers all night that he didn’t pee in because i
woke up in the night to put him in the litter box to pee. maybe the diaper
irritated the skin?? It was fine yesterday morning but medium pink last
night.
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I gotta protect the skin with a barrier product since he has the
ability to pee on himself because of his loose skin and the way he lays. The
vet said only SDD every other day and cornstarch the in between days, but that
won’t work with Frodo. And I don’t like her comment that it’s just a matter of
time (as in soon) before he gets urine scald again that leads to sepsis and
euthanasia. So as long as Balin doesn’t eat the butt paste I can’t follow the
vets plan. Frodo and Balin can’t lick the areas that need the ointment, since
they are always under Frodo. I just don’t want Balin to lick the blankets that
might have residue from Frodo wriggling around on them. Not that Balin is
the type to lick or eat everything in sight. And we’re probably talking a
small bit of residue that would be in the blankets, as long as we don’t use
half a tube of butt paste at once. Anybody use zinc oxide on bonded rabbits?
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Oh and I forgot that the veterinus derma gel got delivered the other
day with a bunch of amazon items. Would that work better than a&d? Because
the a&d isn’t working.
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Sounds good to me to use the Butt paste since Brenda, that’s what
my friend does also….especially since he isn’t mobile. Does he have a chance of
getting over his immobility? My Micah had no back feet, so it was a
dilemma too sometimes, the a and d worked though but I also used the really
good vet bedding I told you about so it didn’t stay web. But he he didn’t lie
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This is what my rescue friend said,
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“ For rabbits like that, I always shave them and put Butt Paste
(yellow bottle) on their skin. Then, I keep them on vet
bedding. I have used the SS. But, not for this type of thing.
It won’t protect the skin”.
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Love to you and still praying for Frodo
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So I might have to switch to butt paste. He was only in a diaper
part of the day and the bedding was dry and he himself felt dry when I checked
him after he escaped his diaper. I even patted him with a Kleenex to see if it
got wet. The fur was dry the skin was dry. But at the bedtime ointment
and diaper application, I noticed some of the skin in the folded area
near his butt was dark pink. Maybe the skin is still sensitive and so a wee bit
of wee irritated it? Or maybe the pee is getting caught in the loose skin of
his back end, From where he’s lost weight over the years (he used to be a
piggie). I put him in the litter box several times a day to go pee, I’ve got
good bedding, he gets diapers for the night and half the day (if he doesn’t
wriggle out), and he’s got ointment twice a day….. arggg!! Dammit! So
frustrated. Am I the only one with a bunny that is partly immobile and keeps
peeing on himself? I don’t want him to get sores again.
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Aww, I love thar he did 3 laps Brenda, sounds like he’s
doing great ans also happy the Faux sheepskin and A and D is working for you,
it sure worked for us too.
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So Frodo went 3 laps around our finished basement,
which is about 20’x20’ !!! I had a scarf around his middle in case he got
wobbly, but he only did a few times. And he hopped at a normal pace. He’s
tuckered out now but super proud of himself.
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<br>He still has dizziness and unsteady on his back rear
foot. But I’m hoping daily exercise like this will help. The trick is that He
needs to follow a wall on his right side. He gets disoriented when the wall is
on his left (with the open room to his right), and also when he runs out
of wall — he’ll start going in circles. But he seems to know where he is around
the room and has the route memorized probably from 9 years of exploring this
space. And he’s so happy he can walk on his own. Now to get him to get up on
his own. If we can strengthen that left rear foot I think he’ll be able to.
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<br>Wondering if anyone has made open-topped tunnels for
head tilt bunnies to walk through as they relearn balance and orientation And
relearn how to walk.
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<br>And so far the a&d ointment, bedding of faux
sheepskin with towels underneath, and diapers have kept his skin in good shape
after the urine scald last week. His fur is getting a bit oily from the
ointment. I have some “waterless shampoo” for rabbits that i can put on it and
then dry and comb out and see if that does the trick.
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<br>The vet warned that he could suddenly get urine scald
again and it can quickly break down the skin and go septic. So we might not get
as lucky as we did this time. So I guess I need to feel him a few times a day
for any wetness and visually examine him daily?
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<br>Thanks for listening to all my babbling and for all
your support. 💕
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