Ok, I have bought from them too, (joans) the one I told you about was
recommended by a good friend and honestly is the best I’ve ever used. Yes,
I am sure it will pass that test. I wish I had some or saved I would send
to you. I only have carriers with it cut in each one in case we have to
evacuate again(fires) or taking bunnies to the vet, it’s so absorbant.
I know I spend a lot on my bunnies and cry too, so hard when they have
challenges In life, I pray he will heal.
Love, Janet
On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 7:23 PM Brenda Bennett <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I have sheepskin fabric from joanns. It worked great for my Bilbo. I think
Frodo keeps peeing on himself and it gets in his skin folds. so he could
probably be on a wire bottom cage and still get urine scald. I’m hoping the
butt paste will help.
So I’m damned if I use a diaper and damned if I don’t. Ditto on zinc
oxide. He’s gotta get himself up soon or this is a lost cause and I’m
wasting time, money, and lots of emotion.
I can do a test of my sheepskin fabric by dumping ½ cup water and see if
it wets a paper towel afterward. Will the vet bed fabric pass that test ?
-Brenda
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On Dec 11, 2021, at 7:56 PM, Janet G <wildharerescue@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Also, my friend uses this for the vet bedding, she said it’s huge, I like
the thicker ones I sent as Micah stayed dry.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001CBG168/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&pldnSite=1&psc=1&ref_=ppx_yo_mob_b_inactive_ship_o0_img
On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 3:35 PM Brenda Bennett <
dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ok I’ll get one but how do I put it on???
-Brenda
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On Dec 11, 2021, at 6:09 PM, Laura Mowrey <sshalimar16@xxxxxxx> wrote:
The kind you put on human babies.....the sleeves were short.
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*To:* naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [naturalrabbit] Re: Frodo
Laura,
What kind of onesie did you get? With sleeves? I’m going to target to
try to find a different diaper and a shaver but I don’t know if I can shave
him, Ill have to beg the vet to have a good tech do it.
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 3, 2021, at 1:10 PM, Brenda Bennett <bennettbs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I’m worried that if I use a shirt or onesies that it will get wet and
cause more trouble. The only advice I got from my vet was to use SSD
ointment twice in one day, then switch to cornstarch the next day, and so
on, and to get it under control soon or PTS (because his quality of life
stinks right now —dizzy, ear infection, needs fit motility drugs, now urine
scald).
It seems like his rear legs are getting a lot stronger. His back left leg
has been very weak or numb or both since his ear infection and dizziness
started Oct 22. If he can just get onto/stay on his feet … he lays on the
same side because his balance is off and then he can’t get up he can only
scoot.
-Brenda
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On Dec 3, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Janet G <wildharerescue@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Laura, what is Onsies?
Love,Janet
On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:00 AM Laura Mowrey <sshalimar16@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I have never had a reason to use it on a rabbit........I just know it
worked wonders on every other animal I have used it on. But like anything
else, no matter what you put on your animal, it's important that they don't
ingest it. Even SSD cream can cause problems if ingested, and at the very
least, if the animal is licking medicine off, it's not going to do them any
good. Someone on here mentioned using human baby onesies....I have had
really great success using those on some animals as well, to keep them from
licking or scratching at certain areas of their bodies. Although I have had
several rabbits in my lifetime, they are by no means my area of expertise
when it comes to medical issues so I will defer to others who have more
knowledge than I do.
Now, when it comes to diet ideas and enrichment, I am all over that
subject! 😉
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*To:* naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [naturalrabbit] Re: Frodo
I swear by zinc oxide for urine scald...I had before and after pictures
of a bunny with urine scald and then being treated with zinc -it was
amazing -but I've lost the pictures now.
Evonne
On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:49:50 PM EST, Janet G <
wildharerescue@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think there are other ointments better than this to soothe urine scale,
just my opinion though, why echincea? Maybe ok for infection…I’ve never
had experience with this and wonder why because it’s not something I’d use.
The calendula is much more healing, it’s something even my mom used and
it’s amazing, this is interesting. It talks about different causes of
urine scald or burn
https://petcareadvisors.com/rabbits/urine-scald-in-rabbits-causes-and-treatments/
Love, Janet
On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 1:21 PM Brenda Bennett <
dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This is what the holistic vet gave me for another rabbits sore hocks.
Would this work to soothe the urine scald? I think I have to heal it first
and then switch to a barrier ointment
https://www.buckmountainbotanicals.net/treatments/woundbalm.html
-Brenda
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On Dec 2, 2021, at 4:14 PM, Brenda Bennett <bennettbs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I left a message for the vet about Frodo and desitin or what to do. Here
is the reply
I checked him just now and I don’t see any pus anymore. So maybe what
she advises will work.
-Brenda
“
Dr. Lucas took a look at the photos you had sent. She states that these
sores are due to urine scald from Frodo laying in the same spot for a
period of time. Her instructions are as follows: keep him clean and dry and
you can alternate with the SSD ointment one day and then corn starch the
next. She wanted to stress NOT combining both the SSD and corn starch
together as that will make a paste and make things worse. She did state
that if the sores do not improve with time we may need to discuss quality
of life”
-Brenda
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On Dec 2, 2021, at 3:38 PM, Roberta Kessler <rlkessler@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Riley could not reach his hind end to groom, so there was no worry about
ingesting. Evonne had good results with it, too. I wouldn't want Frodo to
be hurt by the Desitin or for Balin to ingest it if he grooms Frodo. It
worked well for Riley when he would develop skin irritation, and I knew he
couldn't ingest it. I used it on and off for a few years. He lived to be
almost 11. Please don't follow my recommendation.
Love,
Roberta
On 12/02/2021 1:09 PM Laura Mowrey <sshalimar16@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I have never used Desitin on a rabbit, (I am far from an expert on this
species and they seem to be in a category all of their own for
sure).....but it worked very well on my possum. Roberta, did you see any
ill effects at all from using it on your bunny? ). Unsure if either of
these products would be an issue just applying it to the skin or if its
more problematic if licked off. Of course, Desitin would not be good if the
animal licked it either. Both contain petroleum. Regardless, he needs
something that forms a true barrier and SSD cream alone will not provide
that. Whatever is used, just make sure Frodo isn't able to lick it.
Both Desitin and A&D contain some questionable ingredients, but I think
the main concern is if its ingested.
A&D ointment is a medicine that is rated safe for both humans and pets.
The main issue is that *the ointment can be poisonous for dogs if they
ingest it and reach the intestines*. ... You should know that A&D
ointment has zinc oxide as one of the healing agents for rashes and wounds.
***If concerned about zinc, make sure you buy regular A&D, not A+D *Zinc*
Oxide
Cream.
Desitin can also be toxic to dogs; however, in most cases, the dog would
have to either eat a large amount or eat the ointment on a regular basis to
have a toxic reaction. Having said that, it’s still possible a dog could
experience some digestive tract issues from eating Desitin.
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*To:* naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [naturalrabbit] Re: Frodo
Brenda, I don’t want to disagree with Laura, but as I feel different
about ointments, as I suggested before, and from my own personal
experience with disabled rabbits and hares, that that A and D ointment
works better than Desitin, A and D is much more protective and creamy and
soft and more protective in my own personal experience with both, also,
please don’t use any with zinc, Desitin also come with zinc with is toxic
to bunnies. Also the A and D comes in original strength, i would only get
original. Look at the differences online…Also, the A and D original has
vitamin ANd D in it which is healing, but both contain petroleum…also, my
good friend who rescues and rehabs bunnies who are disabled uses a and d
Original.
Please look at the online forum for disabled rabbits about the A and D
original ointment here, all have disabled bunnies,
http://www.disabledrabbits.com/urine-scald.html
Love, Janet
On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 8:01 AM Brenda Bennett <
dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I’ll try to get some desitin today. He got out of his diaper last night
and rolled in cecotropes. I don’t want to bathe him again today it seems to
make the area worse and some scabs fell off (I didn’t think they were scabs
at the time) and now those spots have pus. Maybe I can pour some peroxide
on the area or watered down betadine to make sure there’s no poop on the
bare skin. There is some in the fur I’ll try to comb it out
We are all worn out. If his appt next week doesn’t show that his ear
infection is rapidly clearing, she said before it was incueable but then
the pus drastically improved, I’m going to ask to PTS. He can only lay on
one side and crawl a bit, but now that side has sores. He can’t walk
without a scarf holding him up. He’s not eating much. He’s 9 ½
-Brenda
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On Dec 2, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Roberta Kessler <rlkessler@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I completely agree with you about the Desitin, Laura. If you decide to
try the Desitin, Brenda....be sure to get the original formula. There is a
newer type that is thinner; it doesn't stay on as well.. don't buy that
one. It worked well on my children, and worked wonderfully on Riley, and
stays on even when wet. It forms a very good, moisture resistant barrier.
Love,
Roberta
On 12/02/2021 9:11 AM Laura Mowrey <sshalimar16@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Brenda, oh that poor little guy. 🙁 I want to pass on a little trick I
learned thru much trial and error when my disabled possum Lucy was alive.
She arrived here with 9 fractures, severe MBD and all 4 of her legs were
permanently splayed out to the sides so she never walked.....she'd army
crawl to get around just fine though. Keeping her rash free was an insanely
difficult task, especially since female possums have pouches and when she'd
pee at night and lay in it, it would irritate her undersides and her pouch
something terrible. I tired SO many different things, including the cream
you are using on your little guy to no avail.
One day a lightbulb went off in my head and I thought huh, I wonder if
diaper cream would help. I bought some Desitin and OMG, not only did it
tamp down the irritation, it protected her like nothing else from it
developing out of control again. She could not really reach to groom
herself so I didn't have to worry about her licking at it. In addition to
that, I used Micro Tek shampoo on her.....that stuff is amazing, it helps
kill bacteria and fungus/yeast, which is almost always a component you are
dealing with in cases like your little boy. You can find it online and many
Feed stores also carry it.
You are probably already aware that animals like your boy and my Lucy are
very prone to bacterial and yeast infections due to those areas of their
bodies being constantly moist. I would advise that you wash that area with
that shampoo I mentioned, it has to sit for a few minutes on him. Make sure
to rinse him well in tepid water....if the water is too warm it will sting
that irritated skin even more. Now here comes the challenging part with a
bunny.....you must dry that area completely, using a low heat because
again, heat will only cause more irritation. I know that's time consuming
and no easy task, especially with a bunny but do the best you can.
Once you are done, slather him in Desiten. It's messy I know, but it will
form a protective barrier on his skin. I am not 100% sure if it's advisable
to use both creams, I personally would put on a layer of the SSD cream and
then add the Desiten....I did that with Lucy and it didn't cause any
adverse skin reactions.
It sounds like this is going to be an on-going issue with your boy so if
this helps keep him comfortable, that's important. I cannot imagine how
much that must hurt if he gets urine on that area. 🙁
If he is not already on a good probiotic for bunnies, get that too......
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*Subject:* [naturalrabbit] Re: Frodo
Here’s pics of the sores and him in his diaper. With and without flash.
Not a great closeup. Its a little better than it was right after the butt
bath. It’s his upper thigh/butt where he lays all the time. He only lays on
one side. I Hope the diaper keeps him dry tonight because I put the silver
sulfa….. antibiotic cream on his sores and it needs to stay on and not
rubbed off and not peed on. He’s still a wee bit damp from his butt bath
but I have to go to bed. I patted with paper towels, towels, sham wows,
more paper towels, hair dryer on low for like 20 minutes. OMG it’s like
it’s against the laws of nature for the fur to be completely dry.
I can’t believe he got these scabs, it must be from having bare skin
rubbing on blankets and carpet and getting wet with pee. I thought fur was
falling out because I had to keep wiping/brushing out some mushy poops. But
then it kept falling out I was using cornstarch to try and keep him
dry/dry him up when he peed, but it didn’t work. I put him on several
layers of bedding to keep him dry, it wasnt working a few days ago but I
think I got it figured out now so he can stay dry. But then he pees onto
himself sometimes so he gets wet again and the cornstarch didn’t prevent
the sores. Maybe they are bed sores or rug burn and urine scald?
Don’t tell him I took a pic of him in his diaper, he finds it very
undignified.
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Thanks for advice and support and prayers. We’re still hoping the ear
infections can be cured, then maybe he can get better. He’s struggling with
the dizziness and lack of mobility. He became mobile again a couple weeks
ago, but has backslid. the dizziness and neurological issues cause one of
his back legs to be weak and for him to walk in circles until he falls over
and can’t get back up.
— Brenda
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