Laura,
What kind of onesie did you get? With sleeves? I’m going to target to try to
find a different diaper and a shaver but I don’t know if I can shave him, Ill
have to beg the vet to have a good tech do it.
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On Dec 3, 2021, at 1:10 PM, Brenda Bennett <bennettbs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I’m worried that if I use a shirt or onesies that it will get wet and cause
more trouble. The only advice I got from my vet was to use SSD ointment twice
in one day, then switch to cornstarch the next day, and so on, and to get it
under control soon or PTS (because his quality of life stinks right now
—dizzy, ear infection, needs fit motility drugs, now urine scald).
It seems like his rear legs are getting a lot stronger. His back left leg has
been very weak or numb or both since his ear infection and dizziness started
Oct 22. If he can just get onto/stay on his feet … he lays on the same side
because his balance is off and then he can’t get up he can only scoot.
-Brenda
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On Dec 3, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Janet G <wildharerescue@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Laura, what is Onsies?
Love,Janet
On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:00 AM Laura Mowrey <sshalimar16@xxxxxxx> wrote:--
I have never had a reason to use it on a rabbit........I just know it
worked wonders on every other animal I have used it on. But like anything
else, no matter what you put on your animal, it's important that they don't
ingest it. Even SSD cream can cause problems if ingested, and at the very
least, if the animal is licking medicine off, it's not going to do them any
good. Someone on here mentioned using human baby onesies....I have had
really great success using those on some animals as well, to keep them from
licking or scratching at certain areas of their bodies. Although I have had
several rabbits in my lifetime, they are by no means my area of expertise
when it comes to medical issues so I will defer to others who have more
knowledge than I do.
Now, when it comes to diet ideas and enrichment, I am all over that
subject! 😉
Blessings,
Laura Mowrey
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From: naturalrabbit-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<naturalrabbit-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Evonne Vey
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 8:35 PM
To: naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [naturalrabbit] Re: Frodo
I swear by zinc oxide for urine scald...I had before and after pictures of
a bunny with urine scald and then being treated with zinc -it was amazing
-but I've lost the pictures now.
Evonne
On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:49:50 PM EST, Janet G
<wildharerescue@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think there are other ointments better than this to soothe urine scale,
just my opinion though, why echincea? Maybe ok for infection…I’ve never
had experience with this and wonder why because it’s not something I’d use.
The calendula is much more healing, it’s something even my mom used and
it’s amazing, this is interesting. It talks about different causes of
urine scald or burn
https://petcareadvisors.com/rabbits/urine-scald-in-rabbits-causes-and-treatments/
Love, Janet
On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 1:21 PM Brenda Bennett <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
This is what the holistic vet gave me for another rabbits sore hocks. Would
this work to soothe the urine scald? I think I have to heal it first and
then switch to a barrier ointment
https://www.buckmountainbotanicals.net/treatments/woundbalm.html
-Brenda
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On Dec 2, 2021, at 4:14 PM, Brenda Bennett <bennettbs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I left a message for the vet about Frodo and desitin or what to do. Here
is the reply
I checked him just now and I don’t see any pus anymore. So maybe what she
advises will work.
-Brenda
“
Dr. Lucas took a look at the photos you had sent. She states that these
sores are due to urine scald from Frodo laying in the same spot for a
period of time. Her instructions are as follows: keep him clean and dry
and you can alternate with the SSD ointment one day and then corn starch
the next. She wanted to stress NOT combining both the SSD and corn starch
together as that will make a paste and make things worse. She did state
that if the sores do not improve with time we may need to discuss quality
of life”
-Brenda
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On Dec 2, 2021, at 3:38 PM, Roberta Kessler <rlkessler@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Riley could not reach his hind end to groom, so there was no worry about
ingesting. Evonne had good results with it, too. I wouldn't want Frodo
to be hurt by the Desitin or for Balin to ingest it if he grooms Frodo.
It worked well for Riley when he would develop skin irritation, and I
knew he couldn't ingest it. I used it on and off for a few years. He
lived to be almost 11. Please don't follow my recommendation.
Love,
Roberta
On 12/02/2021 1:09 PM Laura Mowrey <sshalimar16@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I have never used Desitin on a rabbit, (I am far from an expert on this
species and they seem to be in a category all of their own for
sure).....but it worked very well on my possum. Roberta, did you see any
ill effects at all from using it on your bunny? ). Unsure if either of
these products would be an issue just applying it to the skin or if its
more problematic if licked off. Of course, Desitin would not be good if
the animal licked it either. Both contain petroleum. Regardless, he
needs something that forms a true barrier and SSD cream alone will not
provide that. Whatever is used, just make sure Frodo isn't able to lick
it.
Both Desitin and A&D contain some questionable ingredients, but I think
the main concern is if its ingested.
A&D ointment is a medicine that is rated safe for both humans and pets.
The main issue is that the ointment can be poisonous for dogs if they
ingest it and reach the intestines. ... You should know that A&D
ointment has zinc oxide as one of the healing agents for rashes and
wounds.
***If concerned about zinc, make sure you buy regular A&D, not A+D Zinc
Oxide Cream.
Desitin can also be toxic to dogs; however, in most cases, the dog would
have to either eat a large amount or eat the ointment on a regular basis
to have a toxic reaction. Having said that, it’s still possible a dog
could experience some digestive tract issues from eating Desitin.
Blessings,
Laura Mowrey
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From: naturalrabbit-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<naturalrabbit-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Janet G
<wildharerescue@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:35 AM
To: naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [naturalrabbit] Re: Frodo
Brenda, I don’t want to disagree with Laura, but as I feel different
about ointments, as I suggested before, and from my own personal
experience with disabled rabbits and hares, that that A and D ointment
works better than Desitin, A and D is much more protective and creamy
and soft and more protective in my own personal experience with both,
also, please don’t use any with zinc, Desitin also come with zinc with
is toxic to bunnies. Also the A and D comes in original strength, i
would only get original. Look at the differences online…Also, the A and
D original has vitamin ANd D in it which is healing, but both contain
petroleum…also, my good friend who rescues and rehabs bunnies who are
disabled uses a and d Original.
Please look at the online forum for disabled rabbits about the A and D
original ointment here, all have disabled bunnies,
http://www.disabledrabbits.com/urine-scald.html
Love, Janet
On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 8:01 AM Brenda Bennett
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I’ll try to get some desitin today. He got out of his diaper last night
and rolled in cecotropes. I don’t want to bathe him again today it seems
to make the area worse and some scabs fell off (I didn’t think they were
scabs at the time) and now those spots have pus. Maybe I can pour some
peroxide on the area or watered down betadine to make sure there’s no
poop on the bare skin. There is some in the fur I’ll try to comb it out
We are all worn out. If his appt next week doesn’t show that his ear
infection is rapidly clearing, she said before it was incueable but then
the pus drastically improved, I’m going to ask to PTS. He can only lay
on one side and crawl a bit, but now that side has sores. He can’t walk
without a scarf holding him up. He’s not eating much. He’s 9 ½
-Brenda
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On Dec 2, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Roberta Kessler <rlkessler@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I completely agree with you about the Desitin, Laura. If you decide to
try the Desitin, Brenda....be sure to get the original formula. There
is a newer type that is thinner; it doesn't stay on as well.. don't buy
that one. It worked well on my children, and worked wonderfully on
Riley, and stays on even when wet. It forms a very good, moisture
resistant barrier.
Love,
Roberta
On 12/02/2021 9:11 AM Laura Mowrey <sshalimar16@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Brenda, oh that poor little guy. 🙁 I want to pass on a little trick
I learned thru much trial and error when my disabled possum Lucy was
alive. She arrived here with 9 fractures, severe MBD and all 4 of her
legs were permanently splayed out to the sides so she never
walked.....she'd army crawl to get around just fine though. Keeping
her rash free was an insanely difficult task, especially since female
possums have pouches and when she'd pee at night and lay in it, it
would irritate her undersides and her pouch something terrible. I
tired SO many different things, including the cream you are using on
your little guy to no avail.
One day a lightbulb went off in my head and I thought huh, I wonder if
diaper cream would help. I bought some Desitin and OMG, not only did
it tamp down the irritation, it protected her like nothing else from
it developing out of control again. She could not really reach to
groom herself so I didn't have to worry about her licking at it. In
addition to that, I used Micro Tek shampoo on her.....that stuff is
amazing, it helps kill bacteria and fungus/yeast, which is almost
always a component you are dealing with in cases like your little boy.
You can find it online and many Feed stores also carry it.
You are probably already aware that animals like your boy and my Lucy
are very prone to bacterial and yeast infections due to those areas of
their bodies being constantly moist. I would advise that you wash that
area with that shampoo I mentioned, it has to sit for a few minutes on
him. Make sure to rinse him well in tepid water....if the water is too
warm it will sting that irritated skin even more. Now here comes the
challenging part with a bunny.....you must dry that area completely,
using a low heat because again, heat will only cause more irritation.
I know that's time consuming and no easy task, especially with a bunny
but do the best you can.
Once you are done, slather him in Desiten. It's messy I know, but it
will form a protective barrier on his skin. I am not 100% sure if it's
advisable to use both creams, I personally would put on a layer of the
SSD cream and then add the Desiten....I did that with Lucy and it
didn't cause any adverse skin reactions.
It sounds like this is going to be an on-going issue with your boy so
if this helps keep him comfortable, that's important. I cannot imagine
how much that must hurt if he gets urine on that area. 🙁
If he is not already on a good probiotic for bunnies, get that
too......
Blessings,
Laura Mowrey
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<naturalrabbit-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Brenda Bennett
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 10:24 PM
To: naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [naturalrabbit] Re: Frodo
Here’s pics of the sores and him in his diaper. With and without
flash. Not a great closeup. Its a little better than it was right
after the butt bath. It’s his upper thigh/butt where he lays all the
time. He only lays on one side. I Hope the diaper keeps him dry
tonight because I put the silver sulfa….. antibiotic cream on his
sores and it needs to stay on and not rubbed off and not peed on. He’s
still a wee bit damp from his butt bath but I have to go to bed. I
patted with paper towels, towels, sham wows, more paper towels, hair
dryer on low for like 20 minutes. OMG it’s like it’s against the laws
of nature for the fur to be completely dry.
I can’t believe he got these scabs, it must be from having bare skin
rubbing on blankets and carpet and getting wet with pee. I thought fur
was falling out because I had to keep wiping/brushing out some mushy
poops. But then it kept falling out I was using cornstarch to try and
keep him dry/dry him up when he peed, but it didn’t work. I put him on
several layers of bedding to keep him dry, it wasnt working a few days
ago but I think I got it figured out now so he can stay dry. But then
he pees onto himself sometimes so he gets wet again and the cornstarch
didn’t prevent the sores. Maybe they are bed sores or rug burn and
urine scald?
Don’t tell him I took a pic of him in his diaper, he finds it very
undignified.
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Thanks for advice and support and prayers. We’re still hoping the ear
infections can be cured, then maybe he can get better. He’s struggling
with the dizziness and lack of mobility. He became mobile again a
couple weeks ago, but has backslid. the dizziness and neurological
issues cause one of his back legs to be weak and for him to walk in
circles until he falls over and can’t get back up.
— Brenda
----
Janet
"Whoever saves a single life, it is as if he had saved the whole world"
Janet
"Whoever saves a single life, it is as if he had saved the whole world"
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