[mso] Re: AOL & SMTP (was Outlook Folder Limits (reposting))
- From: "Greg Chapman" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:27:05 -0600
Actually, AOL SMTP servers are not a secret (they really couldn't be,
when you come right down to it) but their POP services (the method by
which standard RFC compliant messaging apps pick up you mail) are well
cloaked.
Here's the NSLookup output for SMTP delivery to AOL:
> aol.com
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: aol.com
Addresses: 205.188.160.120, 64.12.149.25, 64.12.187.24, 205.188.145.213
set type=all
> aol.com
Non-authoritative answer:
aol.com internet address = 205.188.145.213
aol.com internet address = 205.188.160.120
aol.com internet address = 64.12.149.25
aol.com internet address = 64.12.187.24
aol.com nameserver = dns-01.ns.aol.com
aol.com nameserver = dns-02.ns.aol.com
aol.com nameserver = dns-06.ns.aol.com
aol.com nameserver = dns-07.ns.aol.com
aol.com nameserver = dns-01.ns.aol.com
aol.com nameserver = dns-02.ns.aol.com
aol.com nameserver = dns-06.ns.aol.com
aol.com nameserver = dns-07.ns.aol.com
dns-01.ns.aol.com internet address = 152.163.159.232
dns-02.ns.aol.com internet address = 205.188.157.232
dns-06.ns.aol.com internet address = 149.174.211.8
dns-07.ns.aol.com internet address = 64.12.51.132
> set type=mx
> aol.com
Non-authoritative answer:
aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-02.mx.aol.com
aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-03.mx.aol.com
aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-04.mx.aol.com
aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-01.mx.aol.com
aol.com nameserver = dns-01.ns.aol.com
aol.com nameserver = dns-02.ns.aol.com
aol.com nameserver = dns-06.ns.aol.com
aol.com nameserver = dns-07.ns.aol.com
mailin-02.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.137.184
mailin-02.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.138.89
mailin-02.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.138.120
mailin-02.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.136.89
mailin-02.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.136.121
mailin-02.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.137.89
mailin-03.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.138.57
mailin-03.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.138.120
mailin-03.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.136.217
mailin-03.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.136.249
mailin-03.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.137.121
mailin-03.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.137.152
dns-01.ns.aol.com internet address = 152.163.159.232
dns-02.ns.aol.com internet address = 205.188.157.232
dns-06.ns.aol.com internet address = 149.174.211.8
dns-07.ns.aol.com internet address = 64.12.51.132
At the time I did the lookup, these were the 4 preferred Mail (MX)
servers in operation, all with equal prioritization (15):
aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-02.mx.aol.com
aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-03.mx.aol.com
aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-04.mx.aol.com
aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-01.mx.aol.com
As it turns out, these prefs are also 'clustered' or proxies for a
gaggle of mail servers behind these addresses. Check out this connection
string from connecting to mailin-02:
Greg Chapman
http://www.mousetrax.com
"Counting in binary is as easy as 01, 10, 11!
With thinking this clear, is coding really a good idea?"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of emailshere
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 3:05 PM
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mso] Re: AOL & SMTP (was Outlook Folder Limits (reposting))
>
>
>
> <<AOL does not offer SMTP service, and so can't be used with
> third party (n=on AOL) software.>>
>
> True, but I think it can be made to work. For
> about a year (when my only ISP was AOL), I forwarded mail to
> and from customers via Yahoo!Mail's free forwarding service,
> with copies going to my AOL mailbox. When Yahoo!Mail stopped
> being free, I purchased a domain and began using a mailbox at
> Pair.com for the forwarding. Once, when the copies stopped
> arriving at AOL, I suspected a problem at Pair. After a
> couple dozen emails with Pair's tech support, I was informed
> that AOL has a "secret" SMTP server(s?), and that it was AOL
> who had been forwarding my mail for all those months (the
> Pair tech said one of his associates had spoken directly to
> someone "in the know" at AOL who confirmed this hush-hush
> SMTP setup). I had never actually checked my Yahoo or Pair
> mailboxes for any record of the months of forwarding service
> I had assumed was taking place. As it turned out, not a
> single piece of this forwarded mail had arrived at/been
> processed by Pair's email server (who knows about Yahoo??).
> At any rate, if someone uses a non-AOL forwarding address, I
> think it's possible to use Outlook and simply get copies at AOL. Ess
>
>
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