[mso] Re: AOL & SMTP (was Outlook Folder Limits (reposting))
- From: "Troy" <testtroy@xxxxxxx>
- To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 22:21:12 -0600
Good info, thanks, Greg...
Troy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Chapman" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: [mso] Re: AOL & SMTP (was Outlook Folder Limits (reposting))
>
> Actually, AOL SMTP servers are not a secret (they really couldn't be,
> when you come right down to it) but their POP services (the method by
> which standard RFC compliant messaging apps pick up you mail) are well
> cloaked.
>
> Here's the NSLookup output for SMTP delivery to AOL:
>
> > aol.com
> Non-authoritative answer:
> Name: aol.com
> Addresses: 205.188.160.120, 64.12.149.25, 64.12.187.24, 205.188.145.213
>
> set type=all
> > aol.com
> Non-authoritative answer:
> aol.com internet address = 205.188.145.213
> aol.com internet address = 205.188.160.120
> aol.com internet address = 64.12.149.25
> aol.com internet address = 64.12.187.24
> aol.com nameserver = dns-01.ns.aol.com
> aol.com nameserver = dns-02.ns.aol.com
> aol.com nameserver = dns-06.ns.aol.com
> aol.com nameserver = dns-07.ns.aol.com
>
> aol.com nameserver = dns-01.ns.aol.com
> aol.com nameserver = dns-02.ns.aol.com
> aol.com nameserver = dns-06.ns.aol.com
> aol.com nameserver = dns-07.ns.aol.com
> dns-01.ns.aol.com internet address = 152.163.159.232
> dns-02.ns.aol.com internet address = 205.188.157.232
> dns-06.ns.aol.com internet address = 149.174.211.8
> dns-07.ns.aol.com internet address = 64.12.51.132
>
> > set type=mx
> > aol.com
> Non-authoritative answer:
> aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-02.mx.aol.com
> aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-03.mx.aol.com
> aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-04.mx.aol.com
> aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-01.mx.aol.com
>
> aol.com nameserver = dns-01.ns.aol.com
> aol.com nameserver = dns-02.ns.aol.com
> aol.com nameserver = dns-06.ns.aol.com
> aol.com nameserver = dns-07.ns.aol.com
> mailin-02.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.137.184
> mailin-02.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.138.89
> mailin-02.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.138.120
> mailin-02.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.136.89
> mailin-02.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.136.121
> mailin-02.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.137.89
> mailin-03.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.138.57
> mailin-03.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.138.120
> mailin-03.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.136.217
> mailin-03.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.136.249
> mailin-03.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.137.121
> mailin-03.mx.aol.com internet address = 64.12.137.152
> dns-01.ns.aol.com internet address = 152.163.159.232
> dns-02.ns.aol.com internet address = 205.188.157.232
> dns-06.ns.aol.com internet address = 149.174.211.8
> dns-07.ns.aol.com internet address = 64.12.51.132
>
> At the time I did the lookup, these were the 4 preferred Mail (MX)
> servers in operation, all with equal prioritization (15):
> aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-02.mx.aol.com
> aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-03.mx.aol.com
> aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-04.mx.aol.com
> aol.com MX preference = 15, mail exchanger = mailin-01.mx.aol.com
>
> As it turns out, these prefs are also 'clustered' or proxies for a
> gaggle of mail servers behind these addresses. Check out this connection
> string from connecting to mailin-02:
>
>
>
>
>
> Greg Chapman
> http://www.mousetrax.com
> "Counting in binary is as easy as 01, 10, 11!
> With thinking this clear, is coding really a good idea?"
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of emailshere
> > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 3:05 PM
> > To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [mso] Re: AOL & SMTP (was Outlook Folder Limits (reposting))
> >
> >
> >
> > <<AOL does not offer SMTP service, and so can't be used with
> > third party (n=on AOL) software.>>
> >
> > True, but I think it can be made to work. For
> > about a year (when my only ISP was AOL), I forwarded mail to
> > and from customers via Yahoo!Mail's free forwarding service,
> > with copies going to my AOL mailbox. When Yahoo!Mail stopped
> > being free, I purchased a domain and began using a mailbox at
> > Pair.com for the forwarding. Once, when the copies stopped
> > arriving at AOL, I suspected a problem at Pair. After a
> > couple dozen emails with Pair's tech support, I was informed
> > that AOL has a "secret" SMTP server(s?), and that it was AOL
> > who had been forwarding my mail for all those months (the
> > Pair tech said one of his associates had spoken directly to
> > someone "in the know" at AOL who confirmed this hush-hush
> > SMTP setup). I had never actually checked my Yahoo or Pair
> > mailboxes for any record of the months of forwarding service
> > I had assumed was taking place. As it turned out, not a
> > single piece of this forwarded mail had arrived at/been
> > processed by Pair's email server (who knows about Yahoo??).
> > At any rate, if someone uses a non-AOL forwarding address, I
> > think it's possible to use Outlook and simply get copies at AOL. Ess
> >
> >
>
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