Richard, I think I understand and hope I can explain. I believe you have the same payer name associated with credits and debits. You need to use slightly different names for these two types of transactions. Let's give an example, I think I can better explain that way. Let's say you make a withdrawal to pay your electric bill. This is the first payment you've ever enter in money talks to pay your electric company, so there are no choices in your payee/payer field regarding the name of your electric company. After hitting ctrl+t, you type in the name of the electric company, the outfit which is getting paid. If you shift-tab one space to the credit/debit radio button, you will see you are defaulting to a debit transaction. MT defaults to debits since these are what most people will do with the program, pay bills, etc., and they will have relatively fewer credits. After filling out the amount, and making sure the date is correct, filling out the optional Item field, then the optional memo, you come to the optional category field and its optional associated sub-category. You probably will choose Utilities in the category field, and then tab to the subcategory field and choose or enter, "electric, or something like that. Now here's the trick. In the future, when you again write a check or make a paymentt to your electric company, you press ctrl+t, then perhaps the first couple letters of the name of the electric company. Then you press the down arrow key and up pops up the full name of the electric company. But take a moment to shift-tab, and notice you are seeing the debit button. Tab forward and notice you have the same category and subcategory you first chose when first entering the electric bill. That is utility in the category field and electric in the subcategory. But, and this is important, if you were to go back to the debit button just before the payee/payer field, and change that to credit, then you will have blanked out the category and the subcategory entries associated with your electric company payment. You are now getting ready to enter your electrid company transaction as a credit, with its own unique category and subcategory. That is, your electric company, from the viewpoint of Money "Talks, is going to pay money into your account, not the other way around. If you again pick utility as the category and electric as the subcategory you are causing a certain amount of confusion with money talks. I'll give you a personal example of this situation and how I got around it. A credit card I have is with a certain bank, let's call it Joe's Bank and Trust. When I made my first payment to the credit card account after getting money talks, I entered it by pressing ctrl+t, then I used the payee name of "Joe's Bank and Trust, ppayment". I changed the default debit button to credit, and in the category field I use the category name "Credit card payment". When the bank hits me with a finance charge, I used the name Joe's Bank and Trust, finance charge" in the payer/payee field, and made sure the credit/debit button stayed on debit. This allowed me to use a different category and subcategory. So now I just make sure I am selecting the correct variation of the name Joe's Bank and Trust, the debit or credit radio button is automatically associated with the variant of Joe's Bank and Trust I have selected, and the category and subcategory I selected with the debit or credit is correct. The problem develops if you use the same payee/payer name and switch the debit/credit button from one state to the other. I had a situation where I was using the payee/payer name of "cash" for both withdrawals and deposits to a checking account. Every time I changed the state of the debit/credit button, my category subcategory field would blank out, I had to re-enter them. I solved it by only using "cash" for withdrawals, and "cash deposit" for crediting my checking account. This keeps the credit/debit radio button correct, and associates the correct category and subcategory all the time. See if this is what is causing you problems. Let me know if I can help any further. Best, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Godfrey-McKay To: moneytalks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 2:27 AM Subject: [moneytalks] Re: CATEGORY SUMMARY Thanks Steve, checking that box has brought some order to my categories. I still have one problem which is that if I have a category in which there's a debit and a credit, the items are added together rather than being shown as a plus and a minus. Any suggestions please? Thanks. Richard Godfrey-McKay Tel: (01738) 445 880 Mobile: 07791-452593 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: moneytalks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moneytalks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Zielinski Sent: 31 May 2009 23:46 To: moneytalks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [moneytalks] Re: CATEGORY SUMMARY Hi Richard, Can you please be specific. What are you doing, how is the category summary acting oddly. I've used MT for quite a while, and the summary seems to be okay, but additional information can help us figure out what's going on. Under options, setup, do you have "include uncleared transactions in summaries" checked? If not, that may be what you are experiencing. Best, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Godfrey-McKay To: moneytalks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: [moneytalks] CATEGORY SUMMARY Hi, I've found that the category summary feature doesn't appear to operate accurately. anyone else found this? Best, Richard Richard Godfrey-McKay Tel: (01738) 445 880 Mobile: 07791-452593 __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4117 (20090530) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4118 (20090601) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com