I posted this to the debian-vote list a while ago. I needed to get it on record and off my chest before the vote: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/11/msg00076.html This was the response. Be sure to click on the link: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/11/msg00077.html And now you know. Linux is not about choice. Don't know whether to laugh or cry or break something . . . golinux