On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:04:16 -0800 "Go Linux" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "golinux@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) wrote: > > On 11/09/2014 > > 12:19 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > As far as Jessie, I'm now trying to distance myself from Debian. > > > SteveT > > Then maybe modular-debian is not the appropriate name for this list. > Just sayin' . . . > > golinux That's an insightful and observant comment. I'll bet you dollars to donuts that if Joel Roth had created this list today, it would have a different name, but the logistics of changing it now would hurt the group. Also, I'll bet some in this group are loyal to Debian and just want it systemd-free. The other thing is, this name reminds us of the journey we're on, and where we've come from. A couple months ago I think most of us figured "oh, this is just a technical glitch exploited by Red Hat." A couple months ago I'll bet most of us wanted a systemd-free Debian, but now several of us will accept any old systemd-free FOSS OS that meets our needs, and personally, I'd now prefer my systemd-free FOSS OS to *not* be Debian, because of the trust issue. I might not be alone. And maybe the name "modular-debian" is an excellent name after all, because it reminds us of where we've come from. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance