Now that is interesting, Clif. My first attempt at 3½ was Don Young's GWR mogul. OK so I made all sorts of mistakes before I binned the main-frames, but what finally ended my interest was the receipt of Roy Amesbury's drawings for the GWR 3500gal tender for his 5-inch gauge President. The detailed approach to the design of this tender made the 3½ mogul appear to be but a pale imitation of the prototype. I must try to find Roy Amesbury's W&M for his Britannia in the club's back-numbers of the Model Engineer. Thankyou, Clif, Best wishes, Jem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clif Walker" <clif.gwr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:38 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: [modeleng] Re: [modeleng] Re: 3½ versus 5 > Hi, > > The late great Roy Amesbury did prove with his 31/2" Brittannia that you > can > have a scale backhead that works. > To Roy a 12BA thread was big. > > Regards > > Clif > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jem Harrison" <Jem.Harrison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:51 PM > Subject: [modeleng] Re: [modeleng] Re: 3½ versus 5 > > >> Rich, >> >> Bear in mind that I am coming into model engineering from a background of >> building models in 7mm and 10mm to the foot, in which I tried to get the >> details as near to scale size as the Mark 1 eyeball could achieve. In >> considering 3½ inch gauge, i had anticipated that this approach would be >> easier, BUT, as LBSC stated "You cannot scale steam", so the working bits >> and bobs have to accomodate steam & water & oil. In my observations of >> 3½-inch gauge locomotives....not that I have seen many, perhaps half a >> dozen....boiler fittings and pipework have appeared to be overscale. To >> me, >> that does not matter, providing that those components are out of sight, >> but >> when driving a 3½ inch gauge loco, the backhead has to be one of the main >> focus points of one's attention, therefore I would like the fixtures to >> at >> least capture the essence of the prototype. It seems to me that this >> would >> be a much more practical proposition in 5-inch gauge. >> >> One of our club's members has recently finished a Simplex (his first >> loco). >> His next project is a 3½ Britannia. The reason he gave for downsizing >> was >> the issue of weight. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jem >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "R.L. Roebuck" <rlr20@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 2:15 PM >> Subject: [modeleng] Re: 3½ versus 5 >> >> >>> On the whole issue of 3.5" gauge versus 5" gauge, I've heard several >>> people comment that they tried building a 3.5" gauge loco, then tried a >>> 5" >>> gauge loc and found it easier - but might this not be because of the >>> experience gained in building the 3.5" gauge loco? >>> >>> Has anyone out there started in 5" gauge and then gone to 3.5" gauge, >>> and >>> if so, what are your opinions? >>> >>> Yours (working in 3.5" gauge and finding it just fine), >>> >>> Rich. >>> PS You commented that you had looked at the Sweet Pea design, but this >>> is >>> available in 3.5, and 7.25" gauge as well as Sweet Violet and Sweet >>> William. >>> >>> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. >>> >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, >>> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the >>> subject >>> line. >>> >> >> >> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. >> >> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, >> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject >> line. >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/114 - Release Date: >> 28/09/2005 >> > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.