[modeleng] Re: coocking oil.
- From: "Phill Smith" <steam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:00:38 +0800
I have been making biodiesel for years (though I haven't much any in the
last 2). It's easy to do, but now the Aust federal baboons (gov't) have made
it illegal to make unless you apply for a permit and pay the excise that
they feel they are missing out on. It's all become a petty red tape affair.
There is also no guarantee that they will let you have a permit, and they
can revoke it on a whim and fine you exuberant amounts for any fuel that you
make without the permit.....
No...... I haven't got a permit......
Tel, make sure you get pure methanol. Not the shell racing fuel, which has
acetone added to it which ruins the entire chemical process. It must be
99.99% pure.
I started working from the book (which is available from the site listed
below) and had excellent results. I then replaced the caustic with soda ash,
so as to keep the soap by-product liquid, which made it very easy to remove
from my mixing/separation drum. Using caustic leads to having a hard deposit
left in the bottom of the drum. Oh, I made 150l of biodiesel per batch, and
I was making a batch per week. I was paying $175 per 200l drum of methanol,
and $22.50 for 25kg of either caustic or soda ash.
With the rising price of diesel, I may well go back into production. I still
have an unopened 200l drum of methanol in the shed, along with 50kg of
99.99% pure caustic. The only thing I can find is my digital pH meter, which
is required for the tritation testing..... They are bloody expensive over
here in Oz, but cheep as chips in the U.S.
Oh, I never bothered to wash the fuel to remove the last of the methanol
from it, and never suffered from any problems. I did filter it down to 5
micron, when pumping it into my storage tanks (200l drums) with a multi
stage filtration system. I found it was cheaper to filer it like that than
with just one filter.
Cheers,
Phill.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Coppens" <sb286643@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 5:23 PM
Subject: [modeleng] Re: coocking oil.
> Terry,
> Check this out! http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
> I had a look, and it says everything you need,and has more info,than the
> booklet I have
> and it's in English!
> The recipies are the same as the ones I have
> Let us know about your progress?
>
> Patrick
>
> Terry Lane wrote:
>
> >I'd appreciate that Patrick. Don't want to run an engine on it - just
> >burners for the forge & furnaces, but going that way could certainly make
> >life a bit easier getting things working.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Patrick Coppens" <sb286643@xxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:11 PM
> >Subject: [modeleng] Re: coocking oil.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Terry,
> >>Well I used to make the stuff, (I used it some years ago for that BMW
> >>stationary engine) and it is
> >>nothing more than warming the mixture up so it becomes more liquid.
> >>Then you pour in meths,until the clycerin starts so seprate.You the need
> >>to syphon of the thick,sticky stuff, What is left is biodiesel.
> >>The amount of meths,depends on the quality and the composition of the
> >>oil,and needs to be tried out first (in a jar or testtube or the
like...)
> >>You also need to make a modification in the fuel line; the ordinary
> >>rubber (or whatever they use) disolves from the biodiesel,so you need to
> >>put in a different kind of fuel line.
> >>It is also not wise to mix regular diesel with this type of biostuff,
> >>as the two ,when mixed, make a sort of gummy sludge that blocks the fuel
> >>line...
> >>It can be colored with food dies,(here commercial biodiesel is green I
> >>think)as to keep the cash in your pocket,instead of the wallet of the
> >>Beloved Tony....
> >>I have never tried it on a road vehicle, but I was told, that the
> >>biostuff is gentle for the engine(it made the Beemer motor purr like a
> >>kitten),and the usage is a bit higher...
> >>It is true, that if you do not filter all the bits and much out before
> >>you start, that your motor will stink like a BBQ on heat...
> >>but if one works carefully and do things the correct way, the smell is
> >>not bad.
> >>
> >>I have a booklet somewhere, with the exact procedure (in German) wich I
> >>will try to find over the weekend and translate the essentials....
> >>
> >>Patrick
> >>Terry Lane wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Interesting Patrick - tell us more
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>If you have a supply of coocking oil, it is not difficult to make that
> >>>>into 'bio-diesel'
> >>>>This removes the glycerin, and makes it into a fuel that burns cleaner
> >>>>(less smoke etc..)
> >>>>and you can even run a car on it !!!
> >>>>
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