HI All What about oxy propane? A couple of people I know prefer it for boiler making as although the flame isnt as hot it seems to have a much higher calorific value. The following link shows the diffrences http://www.bocindustrial.co.uk/technical/products/gases/fuel_gases/index.asp regards Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pendragon" <idpriest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 4:39 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Torches & Boilers Al, I've just checked and the DA is at about 7psi and the oxo at about 10 = psi with a number 5 nozzle, but I have only recently been silver soldering = some quite thin material hence the fairly small nozzle. I all honesty I don't know what gas pressures I use [I must check]. = When brazing a boiler I usually go to a number thirteen nozzle. I think the answer lies in adjusting the gas pressure so that a roaring flame is NOT produced it seems that the pressures I use produce a quite flame. Hope that makes sense.......But I'm sure more expert listees = than me would be able to give you a deffinative answer. Regards IP "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of = arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, Champagne in one hand - strawberries in the other,=20 body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!"=20 =20 "Never drive faster than your gaurdian angel can fly" =20 Priest & Sons Model Engineers http://www.kinvermes.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/p1.htm -----Original Message----- From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Allen Messer Sent: 09 January 2006 02:22 To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [modeleng] Re: Torches & Boilers Ian, What pressure in psi do you set your regulators to deliver the two gases to the torch? Al Messer --- Pendragon <idpriest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Gents, >=20 > I agree, I use oxy/acetylene and a soft flame does a > far better job. =3D > There > are also technical reasons but I won't go into them > at this stage. >=20 > Regards IP >=20 > "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the > intention of =3D > arriving > safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but > rather to skid in > sideways, Champagne in one hand - strawberries in > the other,=3D20 > body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and > screaming WOO HOO - What a > Ride!"=3D20 > =3D20 > "Never drive faster than your gaurdian angel can > fly" > =3D20 > Priest & Sons Model Engineers=20 > http://www.kinvermes.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/p1.htm >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D=20 > [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Jesse Livingston > Sent: 08 January 2006 18:01 > To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Torches & Boilers >=20 >=20 > Harry, Tel, et al, >=20 > In my experience, what little I have accumulated in > 55 years at the=3D20 > machinist trade, the main thing with using > oxy/acetylene torches for=3D20 > silversoldering is to make sure you have a soft > flame. I have had =3D > better=3D20 > luck by leaving a bit of a "feather" in the flame > which shows an excess =3D > of=3D20 > acetylene. This cuts down on the possibility of > oxidizing the =3D > copper/brass/ >=20 > steel, whatever by overheating in a localized area. > A large welding =3D > tip=3D20 > should work as well as a cutting or rosebud as long > as the flame is not=3D20 > "hard" with excess oxygen. Just my two cents worth. >=20 > Jesse in very windy/warm West Tennessee where it > ought to be at least =3D > cold,=3D20 > but is instead 64=3DB0F outside. My 5' x 6' US flag > is standing straight =3D > out=3D20 > right now. >=20 > >>>No Harry - the cutting tip is by far the best way > to go - Tel > > > > I don't dispute either of you, and I plan to > look into this matter =3D >=20 > > further, but still it puzzles me because in 40 > years of readings of=3D20 > > decades of resources (all the usual suspects) and > discussions not a=3D20 > > single word of using a cutting torch for boiler > building has ever been =3D >=20 > > mentioned. 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