[modeleng] Re: Harrogate Show
- From: "Clifton" <clif.gwr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 09:37:00 +0100
Hi IDP and All,
It wasn't just metal prices that varied from stall to stall at the show.
I wanted some Taps and Dies and found that the price on some stands was more
than double the price on others. The more expensive ones did not even say
what steel they were made from so you can guess it wasn't HSS.
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: "I.D.PRIEST." <idpriest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:14 AM
Subject: [modeleng] Re: Harrogate Show
> Greetings all,
>
> An excellent reply Chris but do you not think that we now have too many
> armchair model engineers who would rather invent some reason to not do
> something rather than actually make something. These people ought not to
> be
> called engineers but ludites. Their hobby is not engineering but
> beaurocracy . They will of course eventually kill the hobby as we
> presently know it and engineers will stay at home in their own sheds and
> workshops and do their own thing. That and of course them assuming they
> can
> take responsibility for me which insults the fact that I am able to make
> my
> own decisions, what next cold tea just in case it burns?
>
> I think greed is another factor. I just don't know how some of the
> suppliers arrive at their prices. I needed some brass tube the price on
> one
> stand was double that of the stand I actually purchased from and that
> price
> was more than double I would have expected to pay at the local scrap yard
> ~~~ if they'd had some.
>
> Remembering also petrol costing what it does plus entry to the show makes
> a
> very expensive day out before anything has been purchased.
>
> I did enjoy the show though and had a chat with some guys I'd not seen for
> some time.
>
> Anyway I've had a rant now, regards to you all.
>
> IDP
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Crosskey" <chris.crosskey@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 11:14 AM
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Harrogate Show
>
>
>> It's not really H+S's fault that we have a legal system that at no
>> points
>> allows for the abrogation of a duty of care..... the yanks will have some
>> small print to the effect that you are entering a risky environment under
>> your own recognisance and that you cannot therefore sue anyone if
>> something blows up and hurts you.... Unfortunately the knock on effect is
>> that if something is inherently dangerous (and gas-fired portable almost
>> anything is indoors unless measures are taken) then they can't let you do
>> it, or if you do it, they can't let the public in.....
>>
>> chrisc
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Clifton
>> Sent: 13 May 2013 20:54
>> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [modeleng] Harrogate Show
>>
>> Hi All,
>> Last Friday I went to the Harrogate ME Show.
>>
>> On walking into the first hall which is normally packed with traders, the
>> first impression was what is missing. The answer was a lot of the normal
>> traders, so much so that in the centre there was a snack bar set out with
>> seats and I even spotted a stall selling sweets .
>>
>> It seems that the internet has started to effect shows as the traders now
>> find that they can sell sufficient online so why bother with the expense
>> of having a stand.
>>
>> Still overall it was a good show despite apparently Health and Safety
>> shutting down some Hot Air engines on their demonstration stand, as I
>> believe because they were gas fired.
>>
>> Clif
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